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trogdor

posted on 16/1/07 at 01:56 PM Reply With Quote
I find it amusing in physics that they find it embrassing how much they don't know,

its the same in my degree, the oceans are so unknown yet we know so much about them. is ironic really

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macnab

posted on 16/1/07 at 04:24 PM Reply With Quote
That sounds an interesting degree.

Lots of new thing’s been discovered recently. Good chance of getting on board a submersible as well, I’d love that.


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DIY Si

posted on 16/1/07 at 06:14 PM Reply With Quote
Don't know about anti matter much, but protons and electrons are made up of three quarks (up and down in this case), giving the electron -1 and the proton +1. The component parts are, however, totally different in weight.
As said there is much about physics that can only be guessed at present, due to not having any way of measuring/viewing/detecting it at all. Bit like the deep ocean stuff. We know roughly what's going on, but the details are a little blurry.





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JoelP

posted on 16/1/07 at 08:28 PM Reply With Quote
electrons are not made of quarks, they are in the lepton family, and are nothing to do with quarks. Neutrons and protons are made from 3 quarks each, with the charges balancing to zero and +1 respectively.

The usual answer is that it is chance, that if the charges were not equal we wouldnt be here discussing it as the universe wouldnt 'work'! I suspect that this answer will be replaced with a more fundamental explanation, ie string etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepton

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DIY Si

posted on 16/1/07 at 11:49 PM Reply With Quote
Ooops. Been a while since I did stuff like this, so may have missed a few "minor" details! As said though, if they didn't balance, nothing would stick together.





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Peteff

posted on 17/1/07 at 12:07 AM Reply With Quote
Particle physics

Works like a charm.





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trogdor

posted on 17/1/07 at 09:52 AM Reply With Quote
yeah oceanography can be pretty interesting! unfortunatly i never work with any thing pretty or really weird i was a chemical and physical oceanographer but am now doing a dissertation in geophysics, looking at volcanic processes along the Mid Atlantic Ridge, near the Ascension Islands is kinda cool i am using images noone has really looked at before!

Wish i could get time on a submerisible, but they are almost impossible to get on! would of liked to go on a cruise though, there is a brand new research ship! is sat outside the building right now.






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macnab

posted on 20/1/07 at 09:00 PM Reply With Quote
Stow away…






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omega 24 v6

posted on 20/1/07 at 09:31 PM Reply With Quote
Jeez what a deep and disturbing topic this is. Obviously science has a long way to go yet.

If I was in court for assault and argued my own case that in no way could I have hit the guy would the following theory get me off.

Basically before my fist can contact the guy's fizzog then it has to travel half the distance from the clenched position to his face. It then has to travel half the remain distance to get to his face etc etc. And since half of something can never be nothing then I rest my case I never laid a finger on the guy.

Would I be a free man or could the law prove differently?????





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martyn_16v

posted on 20/1/07 at 11:52 PM Reply With Quote
Sounds very like the tortoise and arrow paradox: if you shoot an arrow at a tortoise that is walking away, by the time the arrow reaches where the tortoise was, it's moved away a bit. So now the arrow has to travel that bit further, but in that time the tortoise has also moved just a wee bit further away, so the arrow has to travel just a little bit farther, but now the tortoise is a gnats nads further, etc etc. Utter rubbish of course, you'll just end up with tortoise kebabs if you actually try it.
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iank

posted on 21/1/07 at 02:49 AM Reply With Quote
Zeno's paradox (tortoise and arrow) make my head hurt.

"Still hotly contested by philosophers" which proves a lot more about philosophers than tortoises if you ask me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno's_paradoxes

(reminds me of a rather crude but funny joke about mathematicians vs engineers)





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Schrodinger

posted on 21/1/07 at 10:28 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
schrodingers cat is widely misunderstood. When he first proposed the idea, it was to illuminate a concept in quantum physics. He did it more to be difficult. He never intended it to be taken seriously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat

as einstein wrote to schrodinger:

quote:
Nobody really doubts that the presence or absence of the cat is something independent of the act of observation.



[Edited on 15/1/07 by JoelP]



Er' leave my cat out of this

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Peteff

posted on 21/1/07 at 11:47 AM Reply With Quote
It'll not pass MOT if you leave the cat out
I'm glad I'm not a philosopher, don't they have to think of some sh!te to justify the title. I want to know the answer to some complex problems like where does all the stuff I put in the compost bin disappear to? It was full two days ago and now there's only half in it, and archaeology, all that stuff they dig up who buries it ?
Didn't Schrodinger like cats, wouldn't the theory have worked with a mouse or something?



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