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Turbo Bike Engine
carnut - 22/1/06 at 11:53 AM

Hi,

Has anyone on here turboed a bike engine?

What turbo did you use?

How did you add more fuel? 2nd ecu, up fuel pressure?

Any info would be great. Ive seen the work that the likes of holeshot etc do but would prefer to do it all myself.

cheers
Carnut


bilbo - 22/1/06 at 12:06 PM

I'd be interested myself on this.

To wet your appetite I found this very entertaining video on the Dax web site showing a Rush with a turbocharged hayabusa engine:

http://www505.catsanddogs.com/Dax/mov/nurburgring.wmv


PAUL FISHER - 22/1/06 at 12:22 PM

Check out "jambojeef" on this forum,Ive been watching his progress with great interest,on his turbo cbr 1000,he's carried out all the work himself,and done a great job on it,would be a good starting point.


kev R1 - 22/1/06 at 02:20 PM

oh my god i need one of those!!!!!!!


carnut - 22/1/06 at 02:21 PM

Shame the cameras looking the wrong way most of the time.

I realy need to turbo my engine, im hooked on this speed thing.


hobbsy - 22/1/06 at 02:44 PM

I too am considering sticking a turbo on my fireblade (919) lump. T25 should provide enough air for 200bhp at about 6psi. Just need to get an airbox to pressurise the carbs and a manifold and an oil feed and return (sandwich plate). Apparently Holeshot use McXpress (Swedish) for their kit. You can buy bits separately I believe (might do this with the airbox).

Also they do thicker headgaskets to drop the compression a bit or I've heard that some people run 2 standard gaskets to achieve the same thing.

If anyone else is thinking of doing this (especially a 919) I'd like to know so we can share ideas and perhaps save money on bits or getting manifolds fab'ed etc.

I saw a turbo'ed 919 in a kart at santa pod a while ago was chatting to the owner but had to go as I was racing myself.


Gav - 22/1/06 at 05:32 PM

Id be interested in doing this eventually with my Blade RRV although i must admit driving a turbo'd car im quite interested in the Nitorus option as well.


gary gsx - 22/1/06 at 06:18 PM

I just want one for me bike on the road


JoelP - 22/1/06 at 07:15 PM

another chap on here had a turbo'd bike. Somewhere darn sarf. That garage19 fella.

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=7047

[Edited on 22/1/06 by JoelP]


gary gsx - 23/1/06 at 06:35 PM

interesting stuff have to talk the mrs into it first though


cossey - 23/1/06 at 08:17 PM

if its a carbed engine then its fairly easy to seal up the carbs and rejet to suit the bigger hp and using a boost related fuel regulator (it lets fuel pressure rise with boost). for injection most of the time a power commander should be enough to adjust the injection timing.

just be careful to watch compression ratio as the new bikes run them very high (13-14) which will not work with a turbo so you will need a decompression plate (like a thick head gasket)


jamestziros - 23/1/06 at 08:23 PM

Guys,

If you are serious about doing a tidy Turbo instilation you shoud talk to these people. (www.qpeng.co.uk - Jon Saunders).

Jon developed the Turbo charged Hayabusa for the radical so knows what he is doing.

They can supply you with the equipment to fuel inject your bike engines at fair prices. I believe they will even do the engine loom for you if you do not want to do that yourself.

Feel free to tell him I passed you on & I will be intrested in your feedback.

Go Turbo......


kobushi - 23/1/06 at 09:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by hobbsy
I too am considering sticking a turbo on my fireblade (919) lump. T25 should provide enough air for 200bhp at about 6psi. Just need to get an airbox to pressurise the carbs and a manifold and an oil feed and return (sandwich plate). Apparently Holeshot use McXpress (Swedish) for their kit.


I assume the carb on the bike uses some sort of float(s) ... make sure that the floats in your carb are either sealed brass, or neoprine. If they are just tin/alum foats they will be crushed by the pressure. Not sure what that paticlar bike engine uses stock, but I know from blow-thru carb setups on chevy small blocks that neoprine floats are your best bet; they'll float well and won't get crushed by pressure. Otherwise your plan looks good.

Not sure what comes wth that kit you mentioned, but it should be reasonably easy to weld together a sheetmetal box around your carb. You could also consider going a pass-thru route; but that would effectivly increase your intake runner length substansially. (ie: the carb is on the suck side of the impeller)

The biggest paint in the ass is always sealin the linkage thru the box; it all has to be air tight through brass fittings with plastic coated cording thru them seem to work well to get a good seal; just check them every month or two to be sure the brass hasn't eaten thru the plastic coating yet (Sorry for the novel)