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3 seater car?
nitram38 - 5/4/06 at 04:17 AM

I am soon coming to the end of my build and I have already started designing my next car!
What I would like to ask is will an R1 engine be capable of pulling a car with 3 people?
The idea is that I have a central seat as I like the single seater designs.
I like the idea of a bec .
I am not planning on thrashing it with 3 people, but at the same time, I do not want to ruin a good engine by overloading it. I am just at the idea stage.
Any advice?


RazMan - 5/4/06 at 07:03 AM

The obvious choice (to me anyway) would be the Aeon GT3. It can easily take a whole range of bike & car engines and handles like a dream.

Aeon Sportscars

[Edited on 5-4-06 by RazMan]


nitram38 - 5/4/06 at 09:58 AM

I have looked at their website under 'engines'.
They don't mention bike engines, they refer to ford zetechs


ned - 5/4/06 at 10:01 AM

having been two up in 3 bec's the drivers tell me they are a lot quicker with just the driver so there is definately a performance degradation due to the extra weight of passengers - if the car weighs 450kgs and the three passengers weigh 240kg's in total (approx 80kg/12stone each) you're adding quite a bit of weight and killing the power to weight, especially when bike engines rely on revs for the power and have little torque.

imho..

Ned.

[Edited on 5/4/06 by ned]


Hellfire - 5/4/06 at 11:15 AM

If you can get the finished vehicle weight around 400kgs, I don't see any reason for not using a bike engine. Should still give frightening performance.........

Phil


wildchild - 5/4/06 at 12:57 PM

frighten two people a little bit rather than one person a lot?


RazMan - 5/4/06 at 01:08 PM

I admit that the Aeon isn't as lightweight as some bec's but then it has a lot more in terms of comfort. I estimate that you are looking at around 550kg with a bike engine installed.


gingerprince - 5/4/06 at 01:13 PM

If you're designing and building the next one as you did this one, then just design it with space for 2 engines - problem solved


nitram38 - 5/4/06 at 01:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by gingerprince
If you're designing and building the next one as you did this one, then just design it with space for 2 engines - problem solved


Someone I know has already done it

http://furorecars.co.uk/

I am thinking of a bare bones chassis along the lines of the atom, but with 3 seats. Most of the time it will just be me driving, so hence the central driving position.
One of my concerns is the clutch handling extra weight.


wildchild - 5/4/06 at 02:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by gingerprince
If you're designing and building the next one as you did this one, then just design it with space for 2 engines - problem solved


problem solved - unless you want to drive it on the road...


kb58 - 5/4/06 at 02:19 PM

A 400kg 3-seater?! I agree with the earlier comments, weight is very much the enemy of bike engines and a 3-seater will just kill the advantage of using one. McLaren's F1 street car is a 3-seater... with a V12 to propel it.


quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
If you can get the finished vehicle weight around 400kgs, I don't see any reason for not using a bike engine. Should still give frightening performance.........

Phil


nitram38 - 5/4/06 at 02:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by wildchild
quote:
Originally posted by gingerprince
If you're designing and building the next one as you did this one, then just design it with space for 2 engines - problem solved


problem solved - unless you want to drive it on the road...


Check http://furorecars.co.uk/ .
Twin Kwasaki, road legal


wildchild - 6/4/06 at 07:33 AM

fair enough.