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BEC TURBO RULES!
INDY BIRD - 12/3/07 at 06:42 PM

Ok went out in dileys Blackbird Turbo today.

Well what can i say i thought the zx12r was quick its got nothing on this.

Must be the way to got for the money spent, its so worth it, the acceleration is awesome.

Great car andrew and now the car has been corner weighted it should handle as well as going like a rocket.

You boys at the york drag day will have some serious competiton with his car,

Good to catch up with andrew and see what chucking a lot of money at the car can do

Thanks for the spin out.

Whyat ever i do next its got to be TURBO without a doubt?????


dilley - 12/3/07 at 06:56 PM

and still another 120bhp to go


greggors84 - 12/3/07 at 07:07 PM

Any power figures at present?


dilley - 12/3/07 at 07:10 PM

jus had alook at the dyno graph, 238bhp at the wheels running 12 psi, lowest setting.


arrybradbury - 12/3/07 at 07:12 PM


froggy - 12/3/07 at 07:15 PM

perhaps you could get a friend to slap you if you try and go for more power as id be more than chuffed with that and it could go tits up very quickly if you cant see what the charge temp and lambda is doing. i remember a lad with an r5 turbo making just under 200hp bought a hybrid turbo for me to fit and then asked me to set the wastegate at 18psi which i did. within a week he popped the signal line off the compressor housing and cooked the engine good style


dilley - 12/3/07 at 07:20 PM

have had it running 26psi on the rollers, but no good for the road unless your doing over 100mph.engine was built to hold 26psi. Im happy running how it is, its more than enough, the idea was to build an engine to produce 360bhp and run at 2/3rds of this to maintain reliability.

[Edited on 12/3/07 by dilley]

[Edited on 12/3/07 by dilley]


ChrisGamlin - 12/3/07 at 07:30 PM

A mate of mine is in a similar situation with his Busa turbo, currently running it with low boost for about 250bhp and even that is devastatingly quick on the straights, you wouldnt know it was turbo'd either, no lag just a wall of torque.

Im still not convinced its worth the money though, he says his spending has gone into 5 figures on the engine install alone, not including the original donor engine.


dilley - 12/3/07 at 08:09 PM

A busa is alot more to turbo, I know the car your on about and it really is good, I haven't gone as far as him on some parts of the conversion.


welderman - 12/3/07 at 08:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by dilley
jus had alook at the dyno graph, 238bhp at the wheels running 12 psi, lowest setting.


love it just love it, i cant wait to get mine done.


Blackbird Rush - 12/3/07 at 08:13 PM

Which Turbo conversion is it?

I have a blackbird too, planning to turbo it after SVA


dilley - 12/3/07 at 08:16 PM

mc express, supplied by holeshot.


welderman - 12/3/07 at 08:42 PM

if i could make the 3 hour trip down to yours can i have a passenger ride please, oh then use the loo.


dilley - 12/3/07 at 08:56 PM

give it a couple of weeks and pop down.


locoR1 - 12/3/07 at 09:08 PM

Took mine out for its first test run the other weekend running about 6psi and that was bloody quick compared to the standard R1 cant wait to get it set up and running a bit more boost

I've spent just under a £1000 on it over winter and it looks very promising so far I suppose only time will tell if its reliable or no.
Perhaps there is a locost way to turbo a bec!


26psi and 350hp it must be lighting the tyres up every time you put your foot down

Dave...........


garage19 - 12/3/07 at 09:18 PM

LocoR1 thats a very nice setup you have built there! Looks like a really good job.

What spec/type of turbo are you running?

When tuurbocharged my fireblade a few years ago it cost me £250 so you can do it on a locosters budget!


matt.c - 12/3/07 at 09:22 PM

I dont want to have go in it!

Only because my R1 (when i build it) will feel slow


locoR1 - 12/3/07 at 09:30 PM

Thanks for the positive comments, I could of done it a lot cheaper its all the shiny bits that push the cost up

But hey I like shiny bits

The turbo is from a T5 Volvo if I remember right its a TD04-15G

Dave...........


garage19 - 12/3/07 at 09:36 PM

Dave,

How are you going to set the fueling up and have you made some arrangemnt for retarding the ignition?


locoR1 - 12/3/07 at 09:51 PM

I've just ordered a innovate wideband air/fuel ratio kit but fueling shouldn't be to far out with the info I've use

I've retarded it 2deg static just to be on the safe side but holeshot don't bother the just leave it standard

Once I get it set up so I'm happy with it I may invest in a rolling road session just to check it and get the all important bhp figure.


jambojeef - 12/3/07 at 10:39 PM

Success!

Congratulations Dilley - we should organise a turbo BEC meet up sometime with all the other turbo nutters on ere....anyone up for that?

Geoff


dilley - 12/3/07 at 11:50 PM

Im up for that, maybe we could have a separate turbo bec section on here???


ChrisGamlin - 13/3/07 at 12:29 PM

Not really sure its worthy of a completely different section TBH, you lot don't generate that many posts on a daily basis and anything you do will be of interest to a lot of the rest of us here.


locoR1 - 13/3/07 at 04:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jambojeef
Success!

Congratulations Dilley - we should organise a turbo BEC meet up sometime with all the other turbo nutters on ere....anyone up for that?

Geoff


I'm up for that as well maybe at one of the shows through the year?
Its a shame York is so far away I've always fancied having a go down a drag strip!

Dave...........


dilley - 13/3/07 at 05:00 PM

I'm up for that as well maybe at one of the shows through the year?
Its a shame York is so far away I've always fancied having a go down a drag strip!

Dave...........





Your closer than me and im going!!


dilley - 13/3/07 at 06:10 PM

are thier any rules(between us) i.e locked diff and slicks?? is carnut going?

[Edited on 13/3/07 by dilley]


dilley - 13/3/07 at 06:18 PM

Good.....had me worried for a minute, I've seen the video


So, how many turbo becs going??


welderman - 13/3/07 at 06:46 PM

quote:
Originally posted by chris mason
quote:
Originally posted by dilley
Good.....had me worried for a minute, I've seen the video


So, how many turbo becs going??



Yours
Paul Fishers
Mk's Supercharged GSXR
Neil's (if he gets it done in time)
Sean's (if he gets it done in time)
Gaz's (if he gets it done in time)
LocoR1 ( if we can talk him into it )
Geoff (if we can talk him into it )
Welderman Joe (if he's finished by then)
Carnut (not sure if he's sorted his engine out yet, it's not turbo'd but he's running turbo power)

there could be more it's early days yet, i'm still looking into a turbo install for mine, or maybe be just 75bhp of nos
or both

Chris


Alot of what ifs and mine is a what if Chris.
Cant find time we are are soooo busy at work.


locoR1 - 13/3/07 at 07:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by chris mason
quote:
Originally posted by dilley
Good.....had me worried for a minute, I've seen the video


So, how many turbo becs going??



Yours
Paul Fishers
Mk's Supercharged GSXR
Neil's (if he gets it done in time)
Sean's (if he gets it done in time)
Gaz's (if he gets it done in time)
LocoR1 ( if we can talk him into it )
Geoff (if we can talk him into it )
Welderman Joe (if he's finished by then)
Carnut (not sure if he's sorted his engine out yet, it's not turbo'd but he's running turbo power)

there could be more it's early days yet, i'm still looking into a turbo install for mine, or maybe be just 75bhp of nos
or both

Chris


Ok you've talked me into it

Seriously I would love to come its not back on the road till next month so by the start of May I should have it all sorted and know if everything is ok with it.
I think I would look into hiring a trailer though!

Dilley are you planing on driving yours up or trailer?

Dave...................


dilley - 13/3/07 at 07:19 PM

Trailer, to far for me to drive.


locoR1 - 13/3/07 at 07:27 PM

It wasn't the driving I was worried about more the clutch last time I tried some standing starts I fried the clutch

And I still didn't get the hang of it


dilley - 13/3/07 at 07:28 PM

join the club


Hellfire - 13/3/07 at 07:30 PM

Just bring a few spares Seriously though, which clutch have you fried and after how many miles?

Phil


dilley - 13/3/07 at 07:38 PM

Im running standard clutch with uprated springs, Im having no trouble with mine, Its those round black things that slip


locoR1 - 13/3/07 at 08:14 PM

To be fair that was the original Yamaha clutch done about 8000miles so suppose it had done well really!

I've now got an ebc clutch and doubled up on the clutch spring
Haven't tried any since, would think I will have the same problem as you dilley

Will have to start practicing


Hellfire - 13/3/07 at 08:20 PM

Ditch the EBC clutch and go back to OEM.

Phil


locoR1 - 13/3/07 at 08:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Ditch the EBC clutch and go back to OEM.

Phil


Will probably do that when if fried this one

Dave........


locoR1 - 13/3/07 at 08:30 PM

Cool my post counts up to 50 not bad for 3 years

Or should that be 51


Hellfire - 13/3/07 at 08:31 PM

Try one or two racing starts then or maybe even a donut........


locoR1 - 13/3/07 at 08:49 PM

Donuts are out of the question till I get a LSD fitted

LSD on my shopping list for next winter along with changing it to dedion axle

Dave..............


dilley - 13/3/07 at 08:53 PM

I find mine easier to drive without an lsd, a quaife unit is probably diffeent though,


Minicooper - 13/3/07 at 11:30 PM

Dilley,
Did Holeshot do your conversion? From your picture gallery your blackbird engine is the carb version is that right?

Sorry about the all the questions, the figures mentioned on the Holeshot site for turboing a Blackbird Car conversion are these figures realistic?

http://www.holeshotracing.co.uk/tuning/turbo_car_blackbird.asp

Cheers
David


dilley - 14/3/07 at 10:03 PM

The figures are fairly realistic, its all the work and parts reqired!!!

Im looking at importing some turbo kits and knocking them out nice and cheap, so if anyone wants to know just ask, there is also a seller on ebay doing turbo kits for decent money with lots of options.


clutch_kick - 21/3/07 at 08:31 PM

Guys ... this is fairly important ... will a MHI TD04H-15G-11 turbo be ok on and R1 2005 engine?


G.Man - 21/3/07 at 08:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by locoR1
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Ditch the EBC clutch and go back to OEM.

Phil


Will probably do that when if fried this one

Dave........


We used to use ebc kevlars on our race r1's until they exploded...

Full engine strip to clear out the debris...

Go back to OEM imho