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Avoneer - 17/8/07 at 09:52 PM

And I drove for aboout 5 hours!

And my three passaengers (at different times), all said the same two words, the last one being hell.

Jesus it's fast when you open it up.

Bye bye M3, RS4 and anything else that tried!

Few teething problems with fuses blowing and getting used to the biting point and paddle shift.

What's the best thing to do when you get to traffic lights and junctions, it was always a frantic hand shuffle looking for 1st for me and sometimes got stuck in neutral.

Well chuffed though - never been in anything so fast (and frantic).

Pat...


zilspeed - 17/8/07 at 10:13 PM

That looks the nuts

Bare, basic, neat - quick.

And the wheels are the right size too


ChrisGamlin - 17/8/07 at 10:35 PM

Glad its on the road and all running well Pat

Coming up to junctions you just have to try and remember to change down as you're coming to a halt. If you get stuck in neutral and can't select first, just bring the clutch up and back down, then it will go in. If you get stuck in a high gear after stopping, just drag the clutch for a split second which will move the dogs enough for them to engage and allow you to change down.

All blades and most bike engines do this BTW, not just the one I sold you!

Next stop trackdays? Not to make you jealous or anything but Im off to Spa for two days on Sunday

cheers

Chris

[Edited on 17/8/07 by ChrisGamlin]


andrew.carwithen - 17/8/07 at 10:36 PM

That looks to be a very nice car you've built there, Pat.
Well done.
So, how does it compare to your old pinto powered Avon?
Is it truly faster or is it a combination of not having driven a 'seven' for a while and the frantic nature of the engine making it seem faster?

Andy.


Toady1 - 17/8/07 at 10:43 PM

ive just this week got mine on the road again too! great isnt it!

Altho its quick i dont think it would leave an m3 and certaintly not an rs4 behind tho!


Avoneer - 17/8/07 at 11:09 PM

Hi All,

Don't worry Chris - never doubted you or the engine and anything that happens now in will be my own doing!

Andrew - it is seriously quick and would leave my Avon for dead.

100 comes very quickly indeed with my 3.54 diff and 13" wheels.

It's a truly amazing experience.

You can trundle around like a car at 30 in 6th gear, drop into 3rd and boot it and all hell brakes loose.

Got Elvington Airfield booked for the 1st September already!

Pat...


JoelP - 17/8/07 at 11:30 PM

nice one pat, brings back memories!


worX - 18/8/07 at 12:31 AM

Congrats Pat...

All the best, and unlike most people out there, I know you've been in one of these before, so enjoy the first couple of weeks when it feels fast!!!

Steve


Rudy - 18/8/07 at 05:59 AM

Weel done Pat ! And car looks very cool .


smart51 - 18/8/07 at 08:28 AM

Nice looking car Pat.

quote:
Originally posted by Avoneer
Got Elvington Airfield booked for the 1st September already!


Have you got some new tyres ready? I RUINED mine last year. I had a lot of fun doing it though


Avoneer - 18/8/07 at 08:55 AM

I've got a full set of spare wheels and slicks for track days and will leave my A048's for the road.

Pat...

[Edited on 18/8/07 by Avoneer]


TGR-ECOSSE - 18/8/07 at 11:26 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Avoneer

What's the best thing to do when you get to traffic lights and junctions, it was always a frantic hand shuffle looking for 1st for me and sometimes got stuck in neutral.

Pat...


Sorry for my ignorance but does a hand shuffle mean the same in England as it does up here


smart51 - 18/8/07 at 11:31 AM

Shift through the gears before you come to a complete stop. Otherwise, use a tiny bit of clutch to help you down the box if you are stationary.


Toady1 - 18/8/07 at 12:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by smart51
Shift through the gears before you come to a complete stop. Otherwise, use a tiny bit of clutch to help you down the box if you are stationary.


you mean you dont use the clutch to shift down the box anyway?


ChrisGamlin - 18/8/07 at 12:05 PM

Work up slowly with the slicks Pat and log your oil pressure on the digidash because if they're significantly grippier than the 048s then you're getting towards the limits of a wet sump.


smart51 - 18/8/07 at 01:58 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Toady1
quote:
Originally posted by smart51
Shift through the gears before you come to a complete stop. Otherwise, use a tiny bit of clutch to help you down the box if you are stationary.


you mean you dont use the clutch to shift down the box anyway?


No, I mean use a bit of clutch to help you shift down the box if you are stationary. Not enough to move the car forward but enough to turn the gears a little so that the next one will engage.


ChrisGamlin - 18/8/07 at 05:31 PM

Or in different words, what I said too

quote:

If you get stuck in a high gear after stopping, just drag the clutch for a split second which will move the dogs enough for them to engage and allow you to change down.


Avoneer - 18/8/07 at 08:30 PM

What do you mean by drag the clutch?
If I'm in a high gear at the lights and am holding the clutch down and stopped, if I let go of the clutch a bit, won't the car lunge forward and stall?

The other thing that threw me was a couple of time when I set of in 1st (booting it), went for 2nd and got stuck in neutral and could only slow down (roll in neutral) at the side of the road (not stop though) and loudly clunk (crunch) it into 1st at high revs - couldn't get 2nd after numerous pulls of the paddle.

I guess it's just getting used to it all.

I've found that when coming down the box, clutch in then blip the throttle, change gear then release the clutch seems to make it smooth - sound right?

Also, does everyone stall at lights and roundabouts with cars behind, look like a tit, then rev the balls of it to get going and look even worse?

Pat (still grinning)...


adithorp - 18/8/07 at 09:07 PM

I'm not on the road yet and stand to be corrected if I'm wrong but...

Mine was a bitch to move around without stalling. I'm used to jumping in several different cars a day and just driving them so this was a bit embarasing! So I spent an afternoon re-doing the clutch padal to alter the leverage (moved the cable pull towards the pivot). It transformed things!

Congratulations on getting it done though!

Adrian

[Edited on 18/8/07 by adithorp]


JoelP - 18/8/07 at 09:47 PM

i made a point of not stalling it first time, since everyone said i would, but then stalled it most times afterwards. It is indeed a matter of adjusting the pedal ratio to get feel into it.

Dragging the clutch in this case would just be lifting to the bite point to persuade stuff to move - probably like you do in a tin top when reverse isnt lined up.


smart51 - 19/8/07 at 08:11 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Avoneer
If I'm in a high gear at the lights and am holding the clutch down and stopped, if I let go of the clutch a bit, won't the car lunge forward and stall?

The other thing that threw me was a couple of time when I set of in 1st (booting it), went for 2nd and got stuck in neutral and could only slow down (roll in neutral) at the side of the road (not stop though) and loudly clunk (crunch) it into 1st at high revs - couldn't get 2nd after numerous pulls of the paddle.


Also, does everyone stall at lights and roundabouts with cars behind, look like a tit, then rev the balls of it to get going and look even worse?


Drag the clutch: bring the pedal upto biting point but not quite enough to move the car forwards. I spend half of my first driving lesson doing this. Its harder in a BEC unless you adjust you pedal properly.

No, I rarely stall on islands and at junctions, only when I'm not concentrating. My clutch pedal is adjusted for long travel so I can feel the biting point easler.


Avoneer - 19/8/07 at 09:23 PM

Been out again today in the wet - that was fun with A048's so I took it easy with only a bit of arse waggle.

Beginning to get the hang of take off - I've found you hardly need any more revs, it's more letting the clutch up easily.

Think I'll move the clutch cable up towards the pivot of the pedal and see what that's like.

Pat...


Bob C - 19/8/07 at 10:18 PM

me too - now getting the hang of gentle take- offs & planning to start trying the hooligan variety......
Bob


zxrlocost - 20/8/07 at 08:59 AM

Pat I would look at your pivots on your gear change see if they can be adjusted you sound like youve got to much travel


Toady1 - 20/8/07 at 09:56 AM

its SOOO embaressing isnt it! especially when you do it 3 times in a row leaving a junction and looking like a right learner driver all over again!


Avoneer - 20/8/07 at 07:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by zxrlocost
Pat I would look at your pivots on your gear change see if they can be adjusted you sound like youve got to much travel


What makes you say that???

It's an easy job as my two rod linkages have a left hand and right hand rod end, but not sure this would help???

Pat...