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Adam

posted on 18/7/07 at 07:23 PM Reply With Quote
AIS .... Possible SVA problems ???

I'm trying to get my engine in a good state before i drop it in. I've sorted the wiring out but i'm still not sure on the AIS. Should i remove it or should i leave it. I read in the Haynes manaul it helps with emissions? if this is the case should i leave it in to help with the SVA and if i do how do i plumb it in as i'm not fitting the orginal air box? Any pointers would be great..... starting to get my head round these engines now, been used to working on rotary's

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adam

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amalyos

posted on 18/7/07 at 07:50 PM Reply With Quote
I blocked off the AIS on my 5JJ R1, and had no problems with the emissions (2nd time round).
Others have had lots of problems, it seems very hit or miss, but I don't think the AIS has much to do with going through the SVA, as you'll find a production bike probebly wouldn't meet the car requirements.







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nitram38

posted on 18/7/07 at 08:06 PM Reply With Quote
My understanding is that it allows air from the crankcase into the exhaust so creating a temporary oxygen increase to counteract the "choke" (reducing emmissions) from a cold injection system.
I am leaving my engine well alone accept for a Cat and a Power commander.
Just make sure the engine is hot for emmissions and the valves on the system should be closed anyway.

[Edited on 18/7/2007 by nitram38]






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progers

posted on 19/7/07 at 07:06 AM Reply With Quote
You need to block up the AIS for SVA. It puts air into the exhaust that will screw up lambda readings (i.e. you will not see the true engine exhaust gasses).

It will make no difference to how the engine runs. To get through SVA you will need to lean off the engine - this can be done by leaning off the ignition map (injected engine) or some kind of air bleed valves (for carbs). Talk to the kit suppliers they have helped many people through this process.

You will need a CAT.

If you have a carb'd engine there is good advice here http://striker.r-one.co.uk/
under "SVA preparation". This site is a bible for any R1 builders.

Cheers

Paul

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Dillinger1977

posted on 19/7/07 at 07:27 AM Reply With Quote
yeah i'd reccomend removing it or at least disabling it.
It lookes like it uses vaccuum from one of the carbs to control a valve. This has a tube thats connected to the airbox on a bike and splits into 4 to connect to each exhaust output.

You can leave it connected, and if the engine is running you can feel the larger hose (airbox side) sucking air, so the simplest way to disable it doing anything useful is to block that large hose. (i used a sva bolt covering cap and jammed it in!)





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Adam

posted on 19/7/07 at 03:05 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry forgot to put in my orginal post that it's a 2000 R1 engine. I think while the engine is out i will take it off.... just not looking forward to tapping the holes where the 90 degree pipes come out What do i do with the small pipe that runs round the fron of the engine, do i just block that off too?
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Adam

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nitram38

posted on 19/7/07 at 03:52 PM Reply With Quote
It is the same on the 05 injection but was fitted to improve emmisions. I still don't understand why it should be disabled!
After the engine is warm, it disables it's self.
A Power commander should be able to deal with this, or am I missing something?






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chockymonster

posted on 20/7/07 at 08:26 AM Reply With Quote
It improves emissions on the bike, but the car emissions standards are much tighter, the extra air in the exhaust messes the lambda reading up.

As for blocking it up, I didn't tap mine, I used the pipes that connect the ais to the ports, cutting them about 3cm from the ports. I then flattened the ends and sealed them up with metal weld stuff. It seems to be working fine.





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nitram38

posted on 20/7/07 at 11:15 AM Reply With Quote
I have an innovate wide band sensor on mine. Once the car is up and running, I'll do a few experiments to see what happens. It will be a while yet!






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