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Tommy P

posted on 11/12/07 at 07:20 AM Reply With Quote
Electrolitic action

I'm guessing it's been asked before, but here goes.

Does electrolitic action effect kit cars, where the aluminium rivits fix panels to the steel chassis?
Is it worth considering ways to prevent this, or is it not worth bothering about?

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RazMan

posted on 11/12/07 at 08:04 AM Reply With Quote
Electrolytic corrosion can be a problem over a long period of time - just look at some old Landrovers and you can see the sort of damage that can happen.

You can minimise any danger of it happening by applying PU adhesive (and rivets) to alloy panels over a well powder coated chassis. That should help anyway.





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02GF74

posted on 11/12/07 at 08:32 AM Reply With Quote
bear in mind old land rovers can be up to 50 years old ..... and are made from aluminium alloy called Birmabright whcih may or may not be worse that the sheeting used for panels.

aluminium and its alloys will to some extent corrode if in contact with steel, apparently stainless steel/aluminium is worse.

I don't think there has been a post here yet where the panels/rivets have given way ....

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Mr Whippy

posted on 11/12/07 at 08:37 AM Reply With Quote
having restored a few landys, I've not really seen the rivets going into steel corrode, but where a part is thin and can flex (like a body support flange) it turns to dust in no time. Dipping the rivets into PVA glue sounds a good idea so long as it's waterproof.

I doubt these cars will see the kind of weather that sets off the corrosion anyway.

[Edited on 11/12/07 by Mr Whippy]






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James

posted on 11/12/07 at 12:17 PM Reply With Quote
I dipped my rivets in silicon bath sealant before popping them in.

Whether I'll have the car or it'll have the same body panels by the time corrosion may be a problem is somewhat in doubt....

... I bust bought that new set of snips for a reason!

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Tommy P

posted on 12/12/07 at 09:11 AM Reply With Quote
I'll dip em in a bit of pva then.
Cheers

[Edited on 12/12/07 by Tommy P]

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RazMan

posted on 12/12/07 at 09:31 PM Reply With Quote
Erm, isn't PVA water soluble? PU adhesive would be better, or even silicone sealer.





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Tommy P

posted on 13/12/07 at 09:01 AM Reply With Quote
Yes PVA is water soluable, so I guess silicone would be better.
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iank

posted on 13/12/07 at 10:22 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by James
I dipped my rivets in silicon bath sealant before popping them in.
...
Cheers,
James


Ummm, that vinegar small you get from silicone bath sealant is acetic acid.

http://yarchive.net/electr/silicone_sealant_corrosiveness.html

PU is the one to use (and it's a decent glue rather than a sealant - wear gloves ).

[Edited on 13/12/07 by iank]





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Tommy P

posted on 13/12/07 at 10:32 AM Reply With Quote
Mmmm... thats an interesting little article and helps in considering other applications.
Cheers

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