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Author: Subject: Keeping away from a Q plate
tomblyth

posted on 22/1/06 at 02:34 PM Reply With Quote
Keeping away from a Q plate

I have a personal reg no so need to keep away from a Q reg , Has anyone been through the SVA with a bike engine in and kept the Sierra reg? and how did you do it?
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RichieC

posted on 22/1/06 at 02:53 PM Reply With Quote
Providing you have the V5 from the donor car, getting a similar reg (ie same letter) is not a problem.

In some cases it is possible to retain the same plate from the donor but youd need to speak to your DVLA office about it.
For more info look here
Rgds

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Mr G

posted on 22/1/06 at 02:54 PM Reply With Quote
You need 2 items from the donor to get its plate age, its been discussed before.

So the donor sierra has items that go towards the points i.e steering assembly/axles.

If you want the bikes reg number then Engine and Gearbox.


EDIT: Is the private plate age related? (Or should I say derived from a A-Y prefix?)

[Edited on 22/1/06 by Mr G]






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RichieC

posted on 22/1/06 at 07:03 PM Reply With Quote
Nicely put, Im of the same opinion.

I see the Q as an age neutral plate and would much rather have it than a G or similar age.

The only exception I guess is if you have a personal plate of the same year or earlier as your donor and you wish to keep it. Otherwise, you can now get a personalised Q plate.

Rgds

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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 22/1/06 at 07:05 PM Reply With Quote
i'm going for a q plate for the above reasons exactly





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UncleFista

posted on 22/1/06 at 07:38 PM Reply With Quote
You could always "transplant" a bike engine into the Sierra (according to DVLA).

Then it'll be classed as "original" (for the DVLA at least) and count towards the "original donor parts".

Or am I talking shite ?
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Humbug

posted on 22/1/06 at 07:44 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RichieC
Nicely put, Im of the same opinion.

I see the Q as an age neutral plate and would much rather have it than a G or similar age.

The only exception I guess is if you have a personal plate of the same year or earlier as your donor and you wish to keep it. Otherwise, you can now get a personalised Q plate.

Rgds

Rich


You can't gtet a personalised Q plate - they've canned the scheme: It was under consideration but the DVLA have canned the idea:

"Will Q registration marks become available for sale?
The Agency has decided that it will not be releasing Q registration marks for sale. It has emerged that the costs involved in providing sale and transfer facilities would be greater than any return, given the limited number of vehicles that would be eligible to participate. Additionally, the recent review of registration inspection procedures indicated very strong support for retaining the existing policy on Q marks, for consumer protection reasons."

http://www.dvla-som.co.uk/home/en/FAQ/

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RichieC

posted on 22/1/06 at 07:48 PM Reply With Quote
Thats odd, twas just the other week I was on a website which gave you a display to see how the personalised Q plate looked.

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smart51

posted on 22/1/06 at 08:02 PM Reply With Quote
I have a Q plate for the reasons stated above and I'm entirely happy with it.
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JoelP

posted on 22/1/06 at 08:08 PM Reply With Quote
everyone knows about Q plates and emissions, but tom says in his first post that he has a private plate that he wants to fit. Hence he would need age related.
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Hellfire

posted on 22/1/06 at 08:20 PM Reply With Quote
Some people just don't like Q plates. Guess it's just a personal thing.






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Simon

posted on 22/1/06 at 09:17 PM Reply With Quote
I gotta "Q" and I'm proud of it.

All my car came from Sierra except engine/box. Examiner mentioned that I should have "put" engine in Sierra

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bigrich

posted on 22/1/06 at 09:37 PM Reply With Quote
sorry to disapoint you q platers but your missing a piece of info regarding mot emmisions the info you have is correct but you should also add to this amateur or kitcars built after august98 are subject to sva test and emmisions to the age of engine, your car will then be subject to this test at mot time have a look on your v5 log book it gives emmisions info on it. this info is given to the tester when registaring an mot on the new system. also yes i am a tester and yes my bec is subject to a cat test at mot time
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tomblyth

posted on 22/1/06 at 10:00 PM Reply With Quote
daft question

if I buy a cheap new motorbike from ebay
e.g
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SALE-SALE-NEW-CHITUMA-HONGDOU-CTM-125-BIKE_W0QQitemZ4604703409QQcategoryZ424QQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

register it then put this engine/gearbox ( two parts!) in I could have a 2006 reg plate? it cant be that simple can it ????

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JoelP

posted on 22/1/06 at 10:01 PM Reply With Quote
nope, to get a new plate is different to an age related plate, new ones need everything to be new with just one item allowed to be reconditioned to an as new standard. Cant be a hard and fast rule though as ive seen a few new plated cars with too many old components.
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tomblyth

posted on 22/1/06 at 10:10 PM Reply With Quote
It would be age related the bike would be 2006 registered an used as the doner for the kit car! the fact it was registered as a bike for a week or two before being used does that make a differance? it only time ! I dont know !
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JoelP

posted on 22/1/06 at 10:41 PM Reply With Quote
good point there tom...
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decay

posted on 23/1/06 at 09:17 AM Reply With Quote
Can Q platers use 'TRADITIONAL NUMBER PLATES' the white charaters on black plate style?

As far as i can see they say 'Vehicles constructed before 1.1.73 may display traditional style "black and white" plates i.e. white, silver or grey characters on a black plate.'

anyone know?

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David Jenkins

posted on 23/1/06 at 09:27 AM Reply With Quote
No, standard white/yellow plates only - The rules are based on the date of registration.

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smart51

posted on 23/1/06 at 09:35 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bigrich
kitcars built after august98 are subject to sva test and emmisions to the age of engine, your car will then be subject to this test at mot time have a look on your v5 log book it gives emmisions info on it. this info is given to the tester when registaring an mot on the new system.


My V5 says N/A in the boxes related to emissions. Does that mean I'll have to have a cat test?

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Winston Todge

posted on 23/3/06 at 02:28 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry to drag up an old thread. But BigRich, you were saying that if a car is registered as a Q plate then it will have to adhere to the emission standards of the year that it was SVA'd?

So if the car is registered as age related before 98, it will not need a emissions check with CAT every MOT? Only at SVA depending on the year of the engine?

If the car is a Q plate does it always need the same SVA emissions check every year at MOT?

Any help'd be much appreciated,

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posted on 23/3/06 at 03:26 PM Reply With Quote
with the new computer mot you will have to pass what ever you did at sva time so cat test at sva means cat test at mot. this is regardless of number plate.
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Winston Todge

posted on 23/3/06 at 03:39 PM Reply With Quote
Really!?

So if I get the car through SVA with a 2000 spec R1 motor and a cat and then register it with an age related plate (around 89) I would still have to pass the same emissions test as the SVA at every MOT from that point onwards??

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G.Man

posted on 23/3/06 at 03:41 PM Reply With Quote
My log book has no emissions info shown, so I doubt that unless its gonna change for new SVA's

ie they are gonna record the emissions info...







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posted on 23/3/06 at 04:00 PM Reply With Quote
just because it isnt in the log book doesnt mean that it hasnt been recorded. the new system works by typing the number plate into the computer which tells the mot man what the pass levels are so it could go either way.
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