macdave69
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| posted on 24/4/07 at 10:27 PM |
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Break or buy?
I guess this will be one of many daft questions but here goes.
I own a 99 R1 4XV. To accomodate my return to Locosting, the R1 would have to go!. However, the R1 engine would be my choice of powerplant.
After doing the sums, if I was to break the bike and sell the bits, the total would come to around £2500 (keeping the engine and ancilliaries I
suppose I would have around £1500 towards the build). If I was to sell the bike I would reasonably expect £2500 and then have to source another
engine
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I know the engine in my bike, but could well end up with some parts not selling and therefore holding up the build.
Has anybody any experience on this subject.?
[Edited on 24/4/07 by macdave69]
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Simon
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| posted on 24/4/07 at 10:39 PM |
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I reckon you'll need to do the maths again.
You'll want to keep the engine, loom, ecu, clocks, switchgear etc etc. That means what you'll have available for sale is frame, fairing,
wheels etc. About a grand if you're lucky.
Knowing the engine etc is sound is worth a few quid in my book, plus you'll be able to dismantle bike sympathetically retaining all you need.
Still, a grand should get you a chassis, suspension, diff, uprights etc etc and you're on your way
ATB
Simon
[Edited on 24/4/07 by Simon]
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macdave69
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| posted on 24/4/07 at 10:53 PM |
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Bah, I thought I had done my maths
Although I was surprised how much a frame and log book was going for on Fleabay!
Would any of the bits I need contribute to the retention of an age related plate as I would like to keep the peronalised plate
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Simon
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| posted on 24/4/07 at 11:31 PM |
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I think you'll have to wait for a BEC owner to answer, as I used about four different donors, and have a Q
ATB
Simon
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chockymonster
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| posted on 25/4/07 at 12:02 AM |
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nothing from the bike really counts towards the age related plate.
It's the bits from the sierra/donor that gives you that as you need a certain amount of points to qualify.
My build up report listed the sierra as donor for all bits apart from the chassis, shocks and engine.
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Humbug
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| posted on 25/4/07 at 05:45 AM |
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If you really want to keep the registration, yuou are probably best off transferring it to a retention certificate, building the car so it
doesn't get a Q, then transferring the personal reg onto the car. Not sure, if you have a retention certificate, whether you can present this
when the DVLA are about to allocate the number in order to avoid one extra step
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 25/4/07 at 08:06 AM |
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at shrewsbury dvla I got a Q plate no chance for a age related
other dvla's have been more ok
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smart51
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| posted on 25/4/07 at 08:24 AM |
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If you have the engine and transmission from the donor vehicle, don't you get a different age related plate of the same year as the donor?
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Hellfire
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| posted on 25/4/07 at 11:32 AM |
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The 'Built Up Vehicle Inspection Report' V627/1, list major components for a car as;
Chassis/Body Shell
Axles
Transmission
Steering Assembly
Engine
Suspension (front and back)
You only need to use 2 of the above to qualify for an age related plate. If you have the engine from the bike and the gearbox from the bike, then you
have two major components (engine & transmission  )and should qualify for an age related plate the same year as the bike. However, because
the bike currently has a personalised registration number, I would image you will have to put that on retention and then transfer it onto your kit car
once it's registered. Hope that makes sense.
Phil
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 25/4/07 at 12:25 PM |
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Are you sure on that Phil, because I thought those rules about having two major components only applied to donor cars, not donor bikes?
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Hellfire
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| posted on 25/4/07 at 04:39 PM |
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Looking at the V627/1, you're right Chris. There is a separate section for Motorcycles which lists the following as Major Components
Frame
Forks
Wheels
Engine/Gearbox
So in theory at least, you wouldn't be able to accrue enough points to get an age related plate from the donor bike. However, I'm sure
there is a member on here who has done just that  Can't remember who though.....
Phil
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Simon
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| posted on 25/4/07 at 07:21 PM |
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Buy a Sierra, put the Yam lump in it, get V5 changed to show it and take photos - you'll only need to put the engine in the hole resting on a
couple of bits of wood
One Sierra with R1 bike engine - one donor
ATB
Simon
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 25/4/07 at 07:23 PM |
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I think DVLA spotted that little loophole about 3 years ago unfortunately, you'll have a hell of a job convincing them you've suddenly put
a 1L engine in it not just because of the donor loophole, but also because of the car tax implications.
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