andy_mullin
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 10:13 PM |
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Help, R1/Fazer wiring, some more questions.
Hi All,
Can you help me please.
I’m building my car for track day use only and completely stripped the loom down to the bare minimum.
The good news I got the engine started yesterday.
From the ECU I have these wires left;
1. Black/yellow, black/red & white/red they should go to the Exup valve, can I leave them disconnected?
2. A Blue/red, I’ve no idea on this one.
3. A brown/black.
Also from the speed sensor I have a blue/yellow wire that should go to the instrument cluster, I don’t have one. Can this be left off?
I have 2 single white wires, one is for the neutral light, is the other oil pressure? if so can I wire it up to a bulb?
This is a long shot, I bought a rev counter from Rufforth at the beginning of the month, it has 2 wires to it. Any idea if I can use it? It came from
a racing bike that revved to 14K.
Thanks in advance,
Andy
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andy_mullin
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| posted on 23/11/06 at 06:41 PM |
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I know I know, it's my fault for buying a Fazer engine.
Cheers,
Andy
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the moa 2
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| posted on 24/11/06 at 09:11 PM |
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I dont think its that mate all wiring even when you have diagrams etc is still a mission.
Its always gonna be a bit of luck or knowledge from someone who has already done it.
I Presume you have a wiring diagram if not i know there is somewhere on the net that has lots of workshop manuels for download.
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TimC
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| posted on 25/11/06 at 12:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by andy_mullin
From the ECU I have these wires left;
1. Black/yellow, black/red & white/red they should go to the Exup valve, can I leave them disconnected?
2. A Blue/red, I’ve no idea on this one.
3. A brown/black.
Also from the speed sensor I have a blue/yellow wire that should go to the instrument cluster, I don’t have one. Can this be left off?
I have 2 single white wires, one is for the neutral light, is the other oil pressure? if so can I wire it up to a bulb?
This is a long shot, I bought a rev counter from Rufforth at the beginning of the month, it has 2 wires to it. Any idea if I can use it? It came from
a racing bike that revved to 14K.
Thanks in advance,
Andy
Right then Andy, I'm doing the same with my 5JJ R1 Loom. I've got it in front of me - I'll help if I can:
1. On my loom (someone's done this before me,) white and red is connected to red and black. Black and yellow is connected to nothing.
2. I think it's a switched earth to complete the fuel pump relay circuit. Are you using a switch or something to control the pump instead?
I'm planning to have a go at using this bit.
3. This is a live - I have no idea what it does differently to large Red/White as it does connect to it further up the loom. I've spliced it
into Red/White.
Speed Sensor - I'm taking mine out all together and just cutting and insulating any connecting wires.
Neutral Switch White (it's L.Blue on R1) is a switched earth so can be (I would!!) connected to a bulb.
Does the Fazer have oil pressure or Oil Level? The R1 uses an oil level switch which can be connected to a bulb as above. I'm not using this
and am instead mounting an oil pressure sender (remotely) from a drilled and tapped oil cooler bolt.
Not too sure on rev counter...
Hope I've been some help.
[Edited on 25/11/06 by TimC]
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Coose
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| posted on 25/11/06 at 01:21 PM |
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What make is the rev counter? Where abouts are you?
Spin 'er off Well...
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andy_mullin
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| posted on 25/11/06 at 04:52 PM |
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All,
Thanks for your replies...honest.
TimC
I'm working on it now so I will try.
Coose,
I'm in Haxby.
The rev counter, not sure but it's off a bike and revs to 14k it looks like it has a Ground, and 2 more wires.
Cheers,
Andy
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TimC
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| posted on 25/11/06 at 06:01 PM |
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Chris
WTF is tacho tang? Sounds like something that causes itching in your pants?!
I guess it refers to fault codes on the standard clocks? I'm not using them (and neither is Andy by the sounds of it) so presumably nowt for us
to worry about???
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TimC
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| posted on 25/11/06 at 07:03 PM |
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Ah ok - cheers.
That's the preferred option for the VR2 I'm using anyway.
TC
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Coose
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| posted on 25/11/06 at 09:24 PM |
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Andy,
Can you take a photo of the front and rear of the tacho and I'll try to find out what it's off?
As you're not using any of the Yamaha instruments you can leave the EXUP servo disconnected, so long as you don't use the tacho output
from the ECU and you use a coil output instead (as Chris mentioned). If the tacho that you have isn't compatible with this you might have to get
one that is.
The brown/black wire connects downstream of the ignition fuse.
The rest is as Tim stated.
Hope this helps? I'll wave next time I'm passing! 
[Edited on 25/11/06 by Coose]
Spin 'er off Well...
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TimC
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| posted on 25/11/06 at 09:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Coose
The brown/black wire connects downstream of the ignition fuse.
The rest is as Tim stated.
[Edited on 25/11/06 by Coose]
Coose - How is the black/brown not connected to the red/white as described? They're both downstream of the ignition fuse.
Diagram here....
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Coose
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| posted on 25/11/06 at 10:23 PM |
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Tim,
Yes it is, but I was just stating that the ignition fuse was the origin to clarify!
Spin 'er off Well...
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TimC
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| posted on 26/11/06 at 11:44 AM |
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Cool - I'm easily confused!
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andy_mullin
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| posted on 26/11/06 at 07:29 PM |
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Thanks guys for you help.
7:00 pm Sunday and I've been in the garage all weekend, but I'm getting there.
I'll take some pics of the clocks tonight and post them.
I'm trying to get it ready for the track day at Elvington in a couple of weeks, for me it's the best way of working by giving myself a
deadline.
So far I have the engine up and running, but on about 3.5 cylinders, if I put my hand over the bell mouth of no 1 cylinder it runs on 4!, I'll
leave it for now.
Paddle shift now connected and working.
Tank now installed, pump connected and working.
Rad now in, but no header tank, should not need one.
Dash fitted with neutral light, and on /off switch.
Leaving;
Brakes to bleed.
Seats and belts to fit.
rev counter, water temp and oil pressure light.
Check that everything has been tightened.
Get the rivnut tools from work and fit the Roll Bar.
Put oil in the diff.
That’s it I think, again thanks for all your help.
Cheers,
Andy
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andy_mullin
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| posted on 26/11/06 at 08:16 PM |
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Coose,
I think the clocks are from a Honda maybe a VFR400, I've just checked my sons bike, they are not the same but maybe fom a different model.
Look in my photos.
Cheers,
Andy
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