roadrunner
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| posted on 12/2/07 at 09:15 PM |
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comparisons to R1
Been looking at R1 engines o Fleebay, and just wondered ,is there a similar engine, that will provide the tourqe and power of a R1.
Why are the engines on fleebay missing there carbs.
Cheers Brad.
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rayward
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| posted on 12/2/07 at 09:21 PM |
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don;t you fancy a nice triumph engine
nice n torquey!!!
Ray
[Edited on 12/2/07 by rayward]
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jacko
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| posted on 12/2/07 at 09:23 PM |
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Try a engine like tim & tom has i think it is a faser is that right ?
Graham
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 12/2/07 at 10:56 PM |
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the Fazer does not deliver its power the same as an R1
the one is a a sports tourer the other is a Super Bike
externally almost look the same internals have different different specs to deliver different power bands etc
there is no better bang for buck as the r1 but the zx12r at £1500 is flipping super duper
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tom windmill
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| posted on 12/2/07 at 11:50 PM |
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fazer might not have the same overall power output as the R1 but it sure has plenty of torque, also for 400 quid from ebay with everything there and
only 4000 miles on whos gonna complain!! Anyway Brad why do you want to know?? seen the light and decided to go with a bec?lol
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Cheers Tom
[Edited on 13/2/07 by tom windmill]
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mark_mcd
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| posted on 13/2/07 at 11:37 AM |
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is a fazer the exact same fit as a r1?
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G.Man
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| posted on 13/2/07 at 12:40 PM |
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no
Opinions are like backsides..
Everyone has one, nobody wants to hear it and only other peoples stink!
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richard thomas
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| posted on 13/2/07 at 01:38 PM |
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Hayabusa........ - just don't look at the cost......
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TimC
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| posted on 13/2/07 at 02:03 PM |
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Have a look here:
Drag Day Results
You might have to look in peoples archives if you're not familiar with the individual cars and what engines they are running and of course
it's not terribly scientific, but should give a guide on how ZX9 compares to R1 to 'Blade to ZX12 etc.
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mandbsheldon
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| posted on 13/2/07 at 04:44 PM |
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quote:
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Fazer 1000
Originally posted by mandbsheldon
Yep, Thanks Chris.
Best reaction time 0.523
60ft 2.143
best quarter 13.274
Was a good day!
leigh
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As you can see from the times, it's no slouch and with decent rubber on I Know I could have gone quicker. I've recently just bought
another engine (you can't have to many engines). I bought it from a guy who is part of some American Fazer Club (dont ask), any way he was
saying that the Fazer has far more grunt than the R1 mid range, but when you get to over 8000 revs the R1 has more power. Therefore upto 8000 Revs the
Fazer has it. He was also telling me how easy it is to get 150bhp at the back wheels and relativly cheep to, because, as he explained, in standard
tune it's some what strangled. I can see some modifications on the horizon.
I have driven an R1 powered car and in all honesty I can say that the Fazer drove better, maybe it's the set up I'm not sure, but in terms
of driveabillity the Fazer rearly, in my opinion has the upper hand. If I were to build again, it would certanly be my engine choice. I have completed
approx 3500 miles in the car, with every thing standard, clutch sump etc. with no problems at all. Included in that milage has been some good track
day fun.
Leigh
[Edited on 13/2/07 by mandbsheldon]
[Edited on 13/2/07 by mandbsheldon]
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mark_mcd
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| posted on 13/2/07 at 06:47 PM |
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would mk build you a cradle for it or would it have to be a diy job?
[Edited on 13/2/07 by mark_mcd]
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mandbsheldon
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| posted on 13/2/07 at 07:27 PM |
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Yep Mk do a cradle for the Fazer.
Leigh
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CraigJ
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| posted on 16/2/07 at 02:25 AM |
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What power out put is the fazer and what 0-60 times can i expect? was thinking of using a R1 but at such a cheaper price the fazer might be an option
depending on the performance.
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 16/2/07 at 09:09 AM |
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all the bike engine cars are capable of late 3's early 4's to 60 mate
put it this way there wont be much your way that could keep up with you when your thrashing round in one
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 16/2/07 at 09:10 AM |
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Have you been in a BEC?
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roadrunner
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| posted on 16/2/07 at 12:27 PM |
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I have'nt been in one yet, but Tim Windmill has promised me a go in his Fazer Indy.
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 16/2/07 at 02:24 PM |
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TIM IGNORE ANY SPEED LIMITS AND SCARE HIM
[Edited on 16/2/07 by zxrlocost]
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clutch_kick
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| posted on 16/2/07 at 03:40 PM |
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hmmm .... i took a look at those 1/4mile ET's and this is getting me worried .... My GT4 did low 13's ... if i fix up a BEC with an
Injected R1 and it won't do any better it's going to be a real de-moraliser. I have a reputation to keep up lol
Taking into consideration that i do thrash the engine quite badly with no regard what-so-ever to the well-being of the clutch or the gearbox lol .....
what sort of ET's are we looking at?
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mandbsheldon
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| posted on 16/2/07 at 03:52 PM |
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Yep, those figures are right. Even Hellfires ZX12 was only just under 13's
Leigh
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 16/2/07 at 04:00 PM |
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cluth Kick forget quarter mile times a 7 stlye car has very poor aerodynamics above 80mph 1/4 times mean nothing in real life driving a 7 stlye BEC
will beat most machinery on road and on track
you only have to watch a few vids to see this
also your BEC will out handle anything
so Id forget about the GT4
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clutch_kick
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| posted on 16/2/07 at 04:15 PM |
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I'd better save up for a turbo-conversion then. 
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 16/2/07 at 04:40 PM |
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why did you not read what I put
are you building the car for quarter mile bragging rights ?
if so id say its the wrong build and you should be doing some yank tank 9.0 litre 11 second quarter mile job
if you want a car that will destroy out handle most things in real life/ TRACK driving then a BEC is that car
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clutch_kick
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| posted on 16/2/07 at 05:06 PM |
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no no it will be a Fun/Day-Off-work/Hillclimb car ... but ... a decent 13 seconds on the 1/4 mile would be nice 
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DIY Si
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| posted on 16/2/07 at 05:16 PM |
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7 aren't really all that in a straight line above 80 odd mph. They aren't the best option due to having their main strengths in their
areas, like cornering and braking.
“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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