james h
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| posted on 13/6/07 at 05:11 PM |
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Fireblade fitting
Hi everyone!
My indy has been sitting in the garage for way too long now, and as soon as my exams are over I intend to get cracking with it again.
I bought the chassis a couple of years back, for a fireblade engine, and am looking now to buy the engine. The question is - is there any difference
between the more recent 'blade engines and the older ones in terms of size and mounting points?
I am sure an older carbed blade unit will fit, (if that 'carbed' is the correct terminolgy), but wondered if i could get one in with a
little more power  i.e. a RR-Y , or RR 1-4 fitted in. (Or any other bike engine for that matter.)
Thanks for any help!
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d8mok
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| posted on 13/6/07 at 05:16 PM |
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hi mate. I'm not sure about what fits what but if ur looking to buy a engine give andy at AB performance a call on 01449736633. He's very
very helpful and his engines are great.
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higgsti
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| posted on 13/6/07 at 06:09 PM |
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anything after 1995 engine wise will need a cat on which unless you can borrow for sva will add to your costs and there isnt a great deal of
difference in the newer engines power wise except the 954 .ive got a complete bike im selling for 1k if your interested 1994 honda fireblade 893cc.you
could always fit pre 95 engine then change after sva
[Edited on 13/6/07 by higgsti]
[Edited on 13/6/07 by higgsti]
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james h
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| posted on 13/6/07 at 06:27 PM |
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Thanks for your help
I will drop AB performance a line
Might get back to you on that bike higgsti
thanks again
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 13/6/07 at 06:51 PM |
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All the carbed engines (92-99 RRN-RRX)are the same engine casings, the only difference of note from a mechanical point of view is that the 919 engines
have a reversed gear mechanism, so a gear linkage made to work on an 893 will be reversed if fitted to a 919 (ie forwards to go up the box rather than
backwards, or vice versa).
The injected 929 and 954 engines are different though, and the 998cc CBR1000RR engines different again, so will need modded engine mounts and probably
a new manifold, and as mentioned the earlier injected engines arent a lot more powerful so hardly worth the effort if you already have everything to
fit a carbed engine. Also if you speak to Andy as mentioned above, I think you'll find he'll tell you that he doesnt rate the 929/954 as
highly as the carbed engines or the new 998cc engines for strength and reliability.
Chris
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james h
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| posted on 13/6/07 at 07:32 PM |
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Wow!
Thanks Chris
This forum really is a goldmine of information, I really appreciate all your help, and it is refreshing to find a forum where topics are discussed
sensibly!!
It looks like an 893 or 919 for me then.
I will just need to get a good deal on a 'blade unit.
I know this is all dependent on mileage etc., but what would you expect to be a good price on the above, with all ancillaries i.e. electrics to run
it?
Thanks,
James
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Toady1
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| posted on 13/6/07 at 07:43 PM |
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Ive been in a couple of 919's, and they both went well. Im building a 954cc as i wanted a newer injected engine, plus its about 25bhp more, and
if you ask me, no extra hassle than a carbed one...
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 13/6/07 at 08:21 PM |
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Yep Id go with a newer engine if starting from a clean sheet as they are no harder to fit and no harder to get through SVA (unless you were planning a
pre-95 blade so no cat needed), but I got the impression James had everything already for a carbed blade install?
If thats wrong then yep certainly go for a newer engine if you can afford it, although personally Id go for an R1 in the ~£1k bracket over a blade. If
I had ~£1500 to spend though, the new CBR1000RR is a very good engine acroding to Andy Bates, as long as you fit a swivel pickup sump pan, so it would
be a toss up between one of those and an 04> R1
Chris
[Edited on 13/6/07 by ChrisGamlin]
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 13/6/07 at 08:50 PM |
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My 2800 mile 55-plate R1 cost me £650 without an ECU (the guy i bought it off had sold the ECU / clocks seperately and knew nothing of BEC's) -
managed to get a US loom and ECU for under £300 even with delivery handling charge and VAT added.
Worth looking around anyway
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Toady1
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| posted on 13/6/07 at 09:17 PM |
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you lucky barsteward!
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james h
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| posted on 13/6/07 at 09:39 PM |
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Hi again
Yeah, I have the MK chassis fitted with the mounting points for a 'blade engine, I will need to measure the points to be sure what aged
'blade I can put in.
I can't easily swap the chassis or buy another one, as I have put the alu floor on, and the brake pipes.
However, as I am only 18, I doubt I would get insurance for a blade engined car whatever date the engine is or capacity. I'm sure I will still
love building it though!!
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 13/6/07 at 11:03 PM |
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Specifically for a blade? Cant use the same points for say an R1?? Could be worth a call to MK anyway.
You might find an R1 just as cheap as a blade (RGB has meant demand for blades) anyway and gain an extra 15 - 20bhp. Another cheap option may be a
ZX9R.
Take your time building it and you may be 21 by then anyway so keep your licence clean and you may stand a chance of insuring it.
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 13/6/07 at 11:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Toady1
you lucky barsteward!
LOL, just need to figure out how to fit a turbo for sensible money now to get the power up to an acceptable level!! lol
[Edited on 13/6/07 by Paul TigerB6]
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