bitsilly
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| posted on 30/8/07 at 04:35 PM |
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Starting when not in neutral - or not!
Is there any argument against doing that thingy (I'll have to check what!) to allow the engine (R1) to be started when it's not in
neutral?
Seems like a good idea, I always have the clutch down out of habit anyway when I start it, and whenever I'm in a fluster stuck on a level
crossing in my stalled BEC I never seem to find neutral!
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DIY Si
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| posted on 30/8/07 at 04:54 PM |
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Mine starts in any gear. Lets me avoid the nasty clonk of finding first with it running. As to whether it's a good idea or not I don't
know! 
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Toady1
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| posted on 30/8/07 at 04:58 PM |
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i wired mine up so it can be started with the clutch down or up. just got to remember not to start it in gear thats all.
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BenB
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| posted on 30/8/07 at 05:11 PM |
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I like having the opportunity to start it any gear. It means if I stalled the car I could get the engine running again quickly without having to try
and find neutral....
I usually try and start it in neutral because (this is my thinking anyway) then the starter has less weight to spin up, which can be useful when the
engine is cold and the oil all thick and gloopy....
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Hellfire
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| posted on 30/8/07 at 05:18 PM |
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Our ZX12 will only start in neutral. It's never been a problem.
Phil
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BenB
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| posted on 30/8/07 at 05:24 PM |
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It just depends on how much of the bike loom you use.
The original ST1100 bike electrics has loads of things to prevent you from stating the engine... On my ST I wipped off the tilt sensor, the clutch
sensor, the side stand sensor and made it so I can start in any gear.....
Though I was tempted to keep the side stand sensor and hide it somewhere as a secondary theft deterrant....
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nitram38
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| posted on 30/8/07 at 05:29 PM |
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I am keeping my neutral so that it acts as an overide for my electric reverse.
I want the engine running to help the battery, but I don't want the reverse working while I am in gear!
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bitsilly
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| posted on 30/8/07 at 06:49 PM |
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Yup, think I'll make the change, can't see any real drawbacks.
Cheers
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smart51
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| posted on 30/8/07 at 06:54 PM |
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My R1 was wired to start in neutral only and it was a real pain when it stalled, especially if I tried to pull away in 4th  and couldn't get
it to go into neutral.
I'd prefer starting in neutral or with the clutch in, but couldn't be bothered to wire in a clutch pedal switch so I have it starting in
all gears. It has never been a problem.
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Mr Rob
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| posted on 30/8/07 at 06:55 PM |
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Motorbike engines need to have the clutch pulled in before it will even turn over to start but yes with the clutch in it will start in any gear... as
long as the clutch switch and bike ECU is being used.
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RickRick
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| posted on 30/8/07 at 07:10 PM |
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you could always use the wires from the clutch switch to make an override switch, so normaly it'll only start in neutral but when you stall
there's a panic button!
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ReMan
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| posted on 30/8/07 at 10:50 PM |
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In an emergency you may even want to start it IN GEAR with the clutch out, specially if' you're on a level crossing, strapped in by your 6
points harness the buckle has jammed and you just ran out of fuel and you can hear the train coming!!
At least you can then wind it forward on the starter
In my book remove as much of the interlock stuff as you can
[Edited on 30/8/07 by ReMan]
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TimC
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| posted on 31/8/07 at 07:21 AM |
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I concur - strip it all off and have it exactly like your normal car.
I junked the bike relay assembly altogether.
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Toady1
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| posted on 1/9/07 at 08:40 AM |
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i think the way the boxes work anyway they dont like to have the gears selected with the enginxe/box not turning, so if you do stall it its best that
the engine can be started in any gear with the clutch down so you can then select the gear you want.
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Jimbob
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| posted on 1/9/07 at 04:21 PM |
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Mine starts in any gear it thinks the clutch is in all the time! Much safer in a stall situation and i always start with the clutch in anyway habit
James
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