I'm sure the steering needs a lock
is a keyed ignition (but no steering lock), and an electonic imobaliser enough to cover the sva requireneants, or do i need some form of mechanical security
don't think so as someone could roll off with your car I'm sure the steering needs a lock
Out of curiosity, are the IVA requirements for security the same?
this is directly from the IVA (Draft)
Method of Inspection
Check, in addition to the normal “ignition” switch, that the
vehicle is permanently fitted with an anti-theft device or an
electronic immobiliser that can be activated to prevent the
vehicle being driven or moved under its own power.
A mechanical anti-theft device could be a steering lock or
transmission lock. An electronic immobiliser can be
activated by the ignition key (so would not be obvious) or
could be separate - activated by a little fob type device
Evidence of compliance can be one of the following:
• Documentary evidence from a test laboratory
• Documentary evidence from the vehicle manufacturer
• An original certificate of installation from a Vehicle
Systems Installation Board (VSIB) accredited installer
• An original certificate of installation from a
Mobile Electronics and Security Federation
(MESF) accredited installer
Required Standard
Check, in addition to the normal “ignition” switch, that the
vehicle is permanently fitted with an anti-theft device or an
electronic immobiliser that can be activated to prevent the
vehicle being driven or moved under its own power.
A mechanical anti-theft device could be a steering lock or
transmission lock. An electronic immobiliser can be
activated by the ignition key (so would not be obvious) or
could be separate - activated by a little fob type device
Evidence of compliance can be one of the following:
• Documentary evidence from a test laboratory
• Documentary evidence from the vehicle manufacturer
• An original certificate of installation from a Vehicle
Systems Installation Board (VSIB) accredited installer
• An original certificate of installation from a
Mobile Electronics and Security Federation
(MESF) accredited installer
1. A vehicle MUST be fitted with either a anti – theft device or an electronic
immobiliser
2. If fitted to the Vehicle, an anti – theft device
a. must be operational
b. must not operate on any part of the braking system
3. If it incorporates a mechanical part that acts upon a system used to control the
vehicle
a. It must Deactivate before the engine can be started
b. It must be deactivated while the engine is running
c. It must have a actuation which is a distinct and separate function from that
of stopping the engine
4. If fitted to the Vehicle, an Immobiliser must be accompanied by evidence of
compliance
So would two ignition keys be ok? One the normal ignition key, and one in another part of the car with a simple on/off - say on the passenger side.
It is an electronic form of imobilising the car, in as much as it is a secondary key which must be in the on position for the car to run.
I'd be interested in this, as this is how mine is set up curently...
I thought the standard was
Ignition
Steering lock
Simple on/off with big red key
these are the killers of home fitted systems unless you get a garage to fit the immobilizer 
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An electronic immobiliser can be
activated by the ignition key (so would not be obvious) or
could be separate - activated by a little fob type device
Evidence of compliance can be one of the following:
• Documentary evidence from a test laboratory
• Documentary evidence from the vehicle manufacturer
• An original certificate of installation from a Vehicle
Systems Installation Board (VSIB) accredited installer
• An original certificate of installation from a
Mobile Electronics and Security Federation
(MESF) accredited installer
better off with the steering lock as at least some chav can't send your car off down a hill for a laugh...
Interesting that a locked handbrake is not acceptable
[Edited on 6/11/08 by Mr Whippy]
quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
So would two ignition keys be ok? One the normal ignition key, and one in another part of the car with a simple on/off - say on the passenger side.
Two forms of security required. They can be...
1. Electrical (ignition lock),
2. Mechanical (steering lock, gear change lock),
3. Electronic (immobiliser).
They can't effect the operation of the brakes.
Mine passed with dash mounted ignition lock/switch and an immobiliser.
adrian
i went with the steering lock and the car key, inspector didn't even ask me about methods of security! 
Yes hidden.
But is it acceptable?
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
So would two ignition keys be ok? One the normal ignition key, and one in another part of the car with a simple on/off - say on the passenger side.
Hidden under the dash of course
I had an ignition key (no steering lock) and immobiliser for sva. No problems!
And yes, you could theoreticcally roll the car away!
quote:
Originally posted by omega0684
i went with the steering lock and the car key, inspector didn't even ask me about methods of security!
lol your right, chavs are to dumb to work out a bike box... plus there only interested in nova's end saxo's so you should be safe
seriously tho you can get a handbrake/gearstick lock that will stop either being moved once the lock is on... no good for SVA but worth having
maybe.
back to the question tho does a batt cut off switch count? not sure my focus ecu will like that tho, don't some ecu's need a constant feed?
sorry to be pedantic adithorp but reading that extract on page 1 of the post it appears a mechanical device such as a steering lock is acceptable so
no different from SVA. you just appear to need documentary evidence.
I may be reading things wrong but thats how I would interpret that extract
I read it that you don't need a steering lock:
Check, in addition to the normal “ignition” switch, that the
vehicle is permanently fitted with an anti-theft device or an
electronic immobiliser that can be activated to prevent the
vehicle being driven or moved under its own power.
It states that in addition to a normal keyed ignition the vehicle must have either:
1) an electronic immobiliser
2) an anti theft device which could be interpreted as a steering lock.
You do not need both if I am reading the article correctly.
quote:
Originally posted by Vindi_andy
sorry to be pedantic adithorp but reading that extract on page 1 of the post it appears a mechanical device such as a steering lock is acceptable so no different from SVA. you just appear to need documentary evidence.
I may be reading things wrong but thats how I would interpret that extract
I removed the full steering lock bit from my column. Used dash mounted switch and start button and also an electronic immobilser fitted by me. Passed SVA no probs. IVA seems to request documentary evidence of the immobilser though.
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
quote:
Originally posted by Vindi_andy
sorry to be pedantic adithorp but reading that extract on page 1 of the post it appears a mechanical device such as a steering lock is acceptable so no different from SVA. you just appear to need documentary evidence.
I may be reading things wrong but thats how I would interpret that extract
Well that'll teach me to read all the post then and not make assumptions.
adrian