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Gov insurance proposal all registered cars must be insured
thunderace - 22/1/09 at 10:04 AM

this got posted on the dutton site by colin
im scared i have a number of cars im rebuilding this will rape me.



Gov insurance proposal
IP: 80.47.95.102
Posted on January 21, 2009 at 09:49:36 PM by colin

Heard a couple of 'snippits' on radio about Gov looking into changing law so that all registered cars must be insured wheather on ,or off road, been trying to get more info without luck.
As someone with 12 vehicles I wouldn't be too happy with that one, any input from club to be considered? any online petitions?


MikeCapon - 22/1/09 at 10:07 AM

See here


Dangle_kt - 22/1/09 at 10:08 AM

Its been rumbling round for a while that one.

Classic gvernment think tank approach.

Penilise the honest people who insure cars before taking them on the road, to still NOT catch the perpetual insurance dodgers who wont care the law has changed. Its a way of getting normal folk to jump through hoops so the bad ones stand out a bit more.

Still it will get some money into those financial instituations so thats a good thing....


thunderace - 22/1/09 at 10:20 AM

ohhhhh is this motorbikes toooooooooooo
h e l ppppppppppppp
im paying over £1000 at the moment for my cars bikes and jetskis.


liam.mccaffrey - 22/1/09 at 10:27 AM

hypothetical question
say though you were mad and decided to BUILD your own car! at what point would it become a car and require insurance


theconrodkid - 22/1/09 at 10:32 AM

it is pointed out that a SORN car is exempt from the crushing nazi,s.
of course those that dont register the car in their own name will escape unless they are caught with ANPR and actually stopped,most of these will be throw away items anyway and the fines wont be paid as said owners will know how to get round it.


Mr Whippy - 22/1/09 at 10:44 AM

I got fined for not SORNing my old bike

Despite them sending the reminder for someone else’s car and me writing back to them saying it was not my car and could I get the correct reminder, by the time they replied I was told I had to pay £80 for not SORNing it.

Road tax for a 125cc bike is £15 a year! yet I get an £80 fine for their mistake, like you say the DVLA are the new Nazi party.


Benzine - 22/1/09 at 10:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
like you say the DVLA are the new Nazi party.


but they actually got stuff done

bad stuff, but still...



Posting this message from the back of my bedford TK (converting into campervan) Mobile internet ftw ^____^

[Edited on 22/1/09 by Benzine]


Mr Whippy - 22/1/09 at 10:55 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
like you say the DVLA are the new Nazi party.


but they actually got stuff done

bad stuff, but still...




All reminds me off the film Brazil

Who wants to blow up the DVLA building? (at night when its empty of course ) would be such fun to see the mess of paperwork


minitici - 22/1/09 at 11:06 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
like you say the DVLA are the new Nazi party.


but they actually got stuff done

bad stuff, but still...




All reminds me off the film Brazil

Who wants to blow up the DVLA building? (at night when its empty of course ) would be such fun to see the mess of paperwork


The GCHQ file on Mr Whippy must be getting pretty big by now


theconrodkid - 22/1/09 at 11:06 AM

Who wants to blow up the DVLA building? (at night when its empty of course ) would be such fun to see the mess of paperwork


going by some of the experiences we see on here i think its already been done


idl1975 - 22/1/09 at 11:06 AM

You realise you don't need the reminder form to pay your road tax, right?

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
like you say the DVLA are the new Nazi party.


but they actually got stuff done

bad stuff, but still...




All reminds me off the film Brazil

Who wants to blow up the DVLA building? (at night when its empty of course ) would be such fun to see the mess of paperwork


Benzine - 22/1/09 at 11:23 AM



I've got insurance coming out of my arse!


Mr Whippy - 22/1/09 at 11:25 AM

Oh I did forget I'll admit that, got 8 vehicles just now so sometimes one gets missed. It’s just the size of the fine I got compared to the £15 tax and that I was trying to help them out by notifying them I wasn't the owner for the reminder. Afterwards I went to the post office and got a heap of SORN forms for all the off-road vehicles, filled them out and sent them in regardless of whether they were due or not so then everything should be on the same day.

I can't decide if blowing up the DVLA office would be as much fun as just burning it down, at least a fire would have more chance of destroying their computers

Always fancied building a cruse missile though, it would be an interesting project.

[Edited on 22/1/09 by Mr Whippy]


theconrodkid - 22/1/09 at 11:36 AM

"build a cruise missile and take over the world for £250",another new title by Chris Gibbs available from amazon for £1-99 now.


Benzine - 22/1/09 at 11:49 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I can't decide if blowing up the DVLA office would be as much fun as just burning it down, at least a fire would have more chance of destroying their computers


I think you should get as many BECs as possible and pack them full of explosives and ram the DVLA building. Obviously BECs have more room in their engine bays so more explosives could be packed in.


Mr Whippy - 22/1/09 at 12:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I can't decide if blowing up the DVLA office would be as much fun as just burning it down, at least a fire would have more chance of destroying their computers


I think you should get as many BECs as possible and pack them full of explosives and ram the DVLA building. Obviously BECs have more room in their engine bays so more explosives could be packed in.


They’d be a bit noisy though! You’d hear that lot coming from the other side of the country and lose the element of surprise


MikeR - 22/1/09 at 12:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I got fined for not SORNing my old bike

Despite them sending the reminder for someone else’s car and me writing back to them saying it was not my car and could I get the correct reminder, by the time they replied I was told I had to pay £80 for not SORNing it.

Road tax for a 125cc bike is £15 a year! yet I get an £80 fine for their mistake, like you say the DVLA are the new Nazi party.


Did you write to the DVLA after this happened?

I never got a reminder then got fined. I sent the fine off but wrote explaining the situation and how unhappy i was (especially as the vehicle was SORN'd the previous year and they sent the reminder).

They wrote back, apologised and didn't cash the fine. The computer is automated, the people are ok if they can help in my experience.


britishtrident - 22/1/09 at 12:51 PM

Like everything the gov has done with regard to vehicle taxation & ownership in the last few years it is half thought through here are some examples of the lack of joined up thinking.

Yes a lot of uninsured drivers have accidents --- why ? because the car has either stolen by "joyriders" or the driver is already disqualified from driving,


About 18 moths back some bean counter in the DVLA came up with the statistic that at any time 40% of motorcylives aren't taxed --- I was actually surpised it wasn't more like 55% after all how many week end bikers don't use and therefore tax their bikes over the winter ?



I could go on about recent road tax changes and subsequent re-thinks, thankfully Freelander 1.8 owners will no longer be faced with a 470 pounds per years road tax bill but we are left with a situation where the really pointless over sized anti-social vehicles like the Range Rover "Sport" and BMW X5 aren't being hit so much as their owners will even notice..

[Edited on 22/1/09 by britishtrident]


Mr Whippy - 22/1/09 at 01:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I got fined for not SORNing my old bike

Despite them sending the reminder for someone else’s car and me writing back to them saying it was not my car and could I get the correct reminder, by the time they replied I was told I had to pay £80 for not SORNing it.

Road tax for a 125cc bike is £15 a year! yet I get an £80 fine for their mistake, like you say the DVLA are the new Nazi party.


Did you write to the DVLA after this happened?

I never got a reminder then got fined. I sent the fine off but wrote explaining the situation and how unhappy i was (especially as the vehicle was SORN'd the previous year and they sent the reminder).

They wrote back, apologised and didn't cash the fine. The computer is automated, the people are ok if they can help in my experience.


yeah a nice letter too, but they said I still had to pay it


Dusty - 22/1/09 at 01:33 PM

Remember what happened when switching from old fashioned driving licences to the new ones. Lots of bikers had the motorcycle category missed off the new licence. DVLA said the old licence was the only proof of entitlement held and they had shredded it so you all have to take your tests again.
Blow up DVLA? The whole country would have to take the driving test again.