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adampage - 15/8/11 at 09:09 AM

CATERHAM SUPERSPORT DEDION
ORIGINALLY REGISTERED 1993 BUT COMPLETLY REBUILT 2009
ON NEW CATERHAM METRIC CHASSIS / STARTER KIT, SO NEW CHASSIS, BODY, ELECTRICS & BRAKES

CATERHAM SUPERSPORT 1800 | eBay

If this is still on the original 1993 reg, surely this is not allowed? Is it?

Adam

greed1 - 15/8/11 at 09:18 AM

Doesnt sound right
the original car would now be the doner to a new build


[Edited on 15/8/11 by greed1]

JimSpencer - 15/8/11 at 09:23 AM

Hi

Well.. you can replace a chassis on a like for like basis and not require an IVA can't you? (or you could?)

And the bodywork isn't an issue as everybody is constantly changing wings, etc as they get trashed..

So don't actually see why not, its just all been done in one go.

Sevens are like Triggers broom, had half a dozen new heads and several handles but it's still the same old brush

rayward - 15/8/11 at 09:39 AM

"Well.. you can replace a chassis on a like for like basis and not require an IVA can't you? (or you could?) "


my understanding is the VIN/V5 stays with the Chassis, so technically that car is a ringer

JimSpencer - 15/8/11 at 09:50 AM

Hi

Just checked and you can replace a chassis on a like for like basis (DVLA.gov.uk site) but you would want to see the receipt from Caterham to be certain the paperwork is 100% correct if you bought it.

indykid - 15/8/11 at 09:51 AM

quote:
Originally posted by rayward
"Well.. you can replace a chassis on a like for like basis and not require an IVA can't you? (or you could?) "

my understanding is the VIN/V5 stays with the Chassis, so technically that car is a ringer

You can rebuild a legitimate mini with a heritage shell or a land rover on a new chassis and it still keeps its identity.

I can't see how this is different.

The chassis no should stay with the chassis, but the identity stays with the vehicle as a whole.

The only pertinent part to a 7's identity of those swapped, is the spaceframe. Everything else can be swapped at will. The only grey area is that it's a 'metric' spaceframe. Not sure what difference there is, but it should really be like for like.

scootz - 15/8/11 at 09:59 AM

... and back in the real-world.

As long as the new chassis is a genuine Caterham / Arch / Caged one, the identity on the old one was erased, and the owner had a genuine reason for swapping it, then who cares!

adampage - 15/8/11 at 09:59 AM

but I suppose the land rover/mini example sounds sensible, so it's probably ok then.

Well you learn something new every day!

Thanks

blakep82 - 15/8/11 at 10:37 AM

if its being swapped for an identical new chassis, from the same manufacturer, then the chassis number can be transferred without IVA

mistergrumpy - 15/8/11 at 10:48 AM

I was thinking about this the other day with a Beetle chassis. The likes of the Eagle and Nova are built on them and don't require IVA'ing. So what if I re did my Beetle with a new floor pan because it's rusted and then used that same Beetle as a donor for my kit car? I've essentially built a new car without the need for any IVA and still played within the rules haven't I?

mcerd1 - 15/8/11 at 10:50 AM

quote:
Direct.gov.uk
Vehicles built from a mix of new or used parts
To keep the original registration number of a car or light van that has been rebuilt you will need to use either of the following:

•the original unmodified chassis or unaltered bodyshell
•a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell (body and chassis as one unit – monocoque) of the same specification as the original supported by evidence from the dealer or manufacturer (eg receipt)

You will also need to have two other major components from the original vehicle.

These can be any of the following:

•suspension (front and back)
•steering assembly
•axles (both)
•transmission
•engine


doesn't say anything about keeping the same VIN, but there is nothing wrong with replacing a chassis with a new one 'like for like'

[Edited on 15/8/2011 by mcerd1]

mookaloid - 15/8/11 at 02:40 PM

Sounds ok to me too

stevebubs - 15/8/11 at 02:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mistergrumpy
I was thinking about this the other day with a Beetle chassis. The likes of the Eagle and Nova are built on them and don't require IVA'ing. So what if I re did my Beetle with a new floor pan because it's rusted and then used that same Beetle as a donor for my kit car? I've essentially built a new car without the need for any IVA and still played within the rules haven't I?


Yup...