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theconrodkid - 19/12/08 at 11:52 AM

ok peeps,i need to write a letter to the landlord of my place as there are some tiles that have fallen of the roof and the guttering is falling down,i,m not that good with subtle words so anyone care to volunteer to write said letter and e mail it to me?.
ps ill love you long time if ya do

eznfrank - 19/12/08 at 11:56 AM

Have you tried looking for template letters on the internet. I imagine somewhere like moneysavingexpert might have that sort of template

tegwin - 19/12/08 at 11:58 AM

Dear Mr blob

May I take this oppertunity to wish you a very happy Christmas and joyful new year. I am looking forward to the festivities. However I am concerned that my guests at the dinner party will not enjoy being issued with a bucket in order that they can collect the water that is dripping from the holes in your roof.

Any chance you could get your grubby little face over here and fill my hole!

Mr Whippy - 19/12/08 at 12:02 PM

MikeR - 19/12/08 at 12:05 PM

here's my attempt .......

Conrod Studmuffin
29 Arcacia Avenue
Address
Postcode
Date (important to date it)

Address of LandLord.

Dear Sir,

RE 29 Arcacia Avenue

I am writing to inform you that the property I rent from yourself is requiring some remedial work after the recent heavy rains, namely,

Tiles missing on the roof (road side).
Tile missing on the roof (rear side).
Front guttering leaking above window X
drain pipe at front leaking.
blah blah blah.

Please can you let me know when you estimate these defects to be rectified. I do not believe access to the property will be required during the course of the remedial work, If access is required please contact me via (phone / email / letter and give number if its phone etc) so we can make appropriate arrangements.

Yours Faithfully,

Conrod Studmuffin.

How did i do?

hellbent345 - 19/12/08 at 12:14 PM

haha i love the letter id laugh so hard if he copied it and sent it from conrod studmuffin

mr henderson - 19/12/08 at 12:40 PM

Have you decided whether or not you will withold rent if he doesn't carry out the repairs quickly?

If you are going to do that, then perhaps you should add something like

"If you prefer, I can arrange to have these urgent repairs carried out on your behalf. Please let me know within seven days.

Due to the urgent nature of these problems, if I do not hear from you within seven days I will go ahead and have the repairs carried out, and deduct the cost from future rent payments."

John

mookaloid - 19/12/08 at 12:52 PM

Hi mate,

I'm a letting agent.

I would be happy to assist if you need help. I would need to ask you a few questions about the type of tenancy agreement you have though - do you have one?

Section 11 of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1985 says that the Landlord has a statutory obligation to keep in good order and repair (amongst other things) The structure and fabric of the building including roof and gutters etc.

Depending on the tenancy agreement you have, the landlord may just be able to serve you notice to quit if you do ask him to do the repairs though!

Cheers

Mark

MikeR - 19/12/08 at 01:04 PM

eeek!!!!

careful studmuffin! you may end up out on your ear (and i think starting of threatening to withold payment etc is a good way to end up there).

mookaloid - 19/12/08 at 01:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
eeek!!!!

careful studmuffin! you may end up out on your ear (and i think starting of threatening to withold payment etc is a good way to end up there).

err quite

With holding rent is a breach of your tenancy agreement and should only be done in extreme circumstances. You may well jeopardise your tenancy and you will definitely p*ss your landlord off.

I find that P*ssed off people generally don't do what you want them to......

Cheers

Mark

mr henderson - 19/12/08 at 01:56 PM

The days of throwing tenants out on their ear is long gone. Any attempt at eviction is going to have to go to court, and when it is explained to the judge why the landlord is seeking possession, there could be a very embarrassed landlord at the end of the case.

In any case, a landlord is going to have to decide what his chances are of letting the unrepaired property to someone else.

John

[Edited on 19/12/08 by mr henderson]

mookaloid - 19/12/08 at 02:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
The days of throwing tenants out on their ear is long gone. Any attempt at eviction is going to have to go to court, and when it is explained to the judge why the landlord is seeking possession, there could be a very embarrassed landlord at the end of the case.

In any case, a landlord is going to have to decide what his chances are of letting the unrepaired property to someone else.

John

[Edited on 19/12/08 by mr henderson]

Clearly you aren't aware of the APP (Accelerated Possession Procedure) for Housing Act 1988 (as amended 1996) tenancies.

Cheers

mark

mr henderson - 19/12/08 at 02:09 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid

quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
The days of throwing tenants out on their ear is long gone. Any attempt at eviction is going to have to go to court, and when it is explained to the judge why the landlord is seeking possession, there could be a very embarrassed landlord at the end of the case.

In any case, a landlord is going to have to decide what his chances are of letting the unrepaired property to someone else.

John

[Edited on 19/12/08 by mr henderson]

Clearly you aren't aware of the APP (Accelerated Possession Procedure) for Housing Act 1988 (as amended 1996) tenancies.

Cheers

mark

"The court will normally make its decision by looking at the documents ('written evidence'

which you and your tenant provide. Because your application will be dealt with in this way, you must give the court all the written evidence it needs to make its decision at the outset"

APP just means it isn't an actual court case hearing evidence. The tenant still has a chance to make his case, and if it involves provable failure on the part of the landlord to make necessary repairs, then the tenant is still going to win.

Cheers,
John

[Edited on 19/12/08 by mr henderson]

[Edited on 19/12/08 by mr henderson]

Peteff - 19/12/08 at 02:39 PM

Dear Sir or Madam,
My roof has tiles missing and the guttering is falling down causing damage to interior and possibly the structure. It may become expensive to repair if not remedied soon.

yours sincerely, A.Wellwisher.

edit to add:- He asked for a letter not a worst case scenario where he is getting evicted, don't get carried away.

[Edited on 19/12/08 by Peteff]

MikeR - 19/12/08 at 02:42 PM

John, if this is how you treat people - you have to be prepared for others to treat you the same. Imagine if instead of landlord / tennant, its builder and you.

You haven't quite done something as the builder expected or have forgotten to do something and they immediately threaten to with hold payment. How are you going to react? Most people get a bit upperty at being treated that way.

mr henderson - 19/12/08 at 02:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
John, if this is how you treat people - you have to be prepared for others to treat you the same. Imagine if instead of landlord / tennant, its builder and you.

You haven't quite done something as the builder expected or have forgotten to do something and they immediately threaten to with hold payment. How are you going to react? Most people get a bit upperty at being treated that way.

You are taking this out of context. If there was a satisfactory landlord/tenant relationship here then he would simply ring the landlord, tell him what the problem was and get it dealt with.

The fact that he is asking for advice i writing a formal letter demonstrates that there is not a satisfactory relationship. In any case, I did pose it as a question-

"Have you decided whether or not you will withold rent if he doesn't carry out the repairs quickly?"

He knows what the relationship is, we are only guessing at it. If the relationship is bad, then reminding the landlord about the possibilty of witholding rent is perfectly feasible.

John

mookaloid - 19/12/08 at 02:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson

quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid

quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
The days of throwing tenants out on their ear is long gone. Any attempt at eviction is going to have to go to court, and when it is explained to the judge why the landlord is seeking possession, there could be a very embarrassed landlord at the end of the case.

In any case, a landlord is going to have to decide what his chances are of letting the unrepaired property to someone else.

John

[Edited on 19/12/08 by mr henderson]

Clearly you aren't aware of the APP (Accelerated Possession Procedure) for Housing Act 1988 (as amended 1996) tenancies.

Cheers

mark

"The court will normally make its decision by looking at the documents ('written evidence' which you and your tenant provide. Because your application will be dealt with in this way, you must give the court all the written evidence it needs to make its decision at the outset"

APP just means it isn't an actual court case hearing evidence. The tenant still has a chance to make his case, and if it involves provable failure on the part of the landlord to make necessary repairs, then the tenant is still going to win.

Cheers,
John

[Edited on 19/12/08 by mr henderson]

[Edited on 19/12/08 by mr henderson]

The only evidence required for the APP is that an appropriate notice in accordance with section 21 of the housing act is served.

Possession is then granted if it is proven that the notice was served in the propert maner.

If the tenant has grievances then the tenant must take his own separate action to address those.

carpmart - 19/12/08 at 02:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
here's my attempt .......

Conrod Studmuffin
29 Arcacia Avenue
Address
Postcode
Date (important to date it)

Address of LandLord.

Dear Sir,

RE 29 Arcacia Avenue

I am writing to inform you that the property I rent from yourself is requiring some remedial work after the recent heavy rains, namely,

Tiles missing on the roof (road side).
Tile missing on the roof (rear side).
Front guttering leaking above window X
drain pipe at front leaking.
blah blah blah.

Please can you let me know when you estimate these defects to be rectified. I do not believe access to the property will be required during the course of the remedial work, If access is required please contact me via (phone / email / letter and give number if its phone etc) so we can make appropriate arrangements.

Yours Faithfully,

Conrod Studmuffin.

How did i do?

Good letter!

Without being picky 'Yours faithfully' should always be written with a lower case 'f' not upper case as in the letter above.

theconrodkid - 19/12/08 at 03:14 PM

i thank you all,mr carpmart wins my undying love tho,i dont rent the place btw,i own it but its on a 900 year lease and the builders are responsible for the roof,says so in the deeds.
i must put inkjet to paper and dispatch forthwith

mr henderson - 19/12/08 at 03:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid

If the tenant has grievances then the tenant must take his own separate action to address those.

And the reason why he wouldn't take that action is what, exactly?

Anyway, now that we have the rest of the info we can see that it is all a moot point

John

mookaloid - 19/12/08 at 04:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson

quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid

If the tenant has grievances then the tenant must take his own separate action to address those.

And the reason why he wouldn't take that action is what, exactly?

Anyway, now that we have the rest of the info we can see that it is all a moot point

John

He may well take that action but the point is that you said

"The days of throwing tenants out on their ear is long gone. Any attempt at eviction is going to have to go to court, and when it is explained to the judge why the landlord is seeking possession, there could be a very embarrassed landlord at the end of the case."

Which is not correct. I was keen to ensure that no-one thought that they could take a landlord on in court and win based on the fact that the Landlord hadn't done a few repairs.

I do this for a living. I have qualifications in this subject. I don't know what you do for a living but if you are a solicitor who specialises in property matters then you are probably worth listening to.....

kind regards

mark

mr henderson - 19/12/08 at 04:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid

I do this for a living. I have qualifications in this subject. I don't know what you do for a living but if you are a solicitor who specialises in property matters then you are probably worth listening to.....

FFS, I thought this was supposed to be the season of goodwill.

I can't be bothered taking your argument apart point by point, but the fact remains that the days of throwing people out on their ear are long gone, your qualified opinon to the contrary notwithstanding.

Happy Christmas
John

theconrodkid - 19/12/08 at 04:36 PM

WHOOOOOA chill out peeps,were all sposed to be mates here helping each other out.
the deed is done btw

mookaloid - 19/12/08 at 04:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson

quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid

I do this for a living. I have qualifications in this subject. I don't know what you do for a living but if you are a solicitor who specialises in property matters then you are probably worth listening to.....

FFS, I thought this was supposed to be the season of goodwill.

I can't be bothered taking your argument apart point by point, but the fact remains that the days of throwing people out on their ear are long gone, your qualified opinon to the contrary notwithstanding.

Happy Christmas
John

Apologies to Mr Conrod It is indeed the season of goodwill

For Mr Henderson, Why don't you just back off and give the inflammatory comments a rest? I offer my professional opinion in order to help a fellow builder and you grudgingly and with poor grace acknowledge my expertise but still manage to say that you think you are right!

Unbelieveable

Happy Christmas everybody

mr henderson - 19/12/08 at 05:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid

For Mr Henderson, Why don't you just back off and give the inflammatory comments a rest? I offer my professional opinion in order to help a fellow builder and you grudgingly and with poor grace acknowledge my expertise but still manage to say that you think you are right!

Keep it going, why don't you. We all had the chance to drop it when CRK made his last post, but oh no, you had to keep it going.

Sorry if I'm not impressed with your professional opinion, because that's just what it is, an opinion, and we've all got them. Yours isn't worth more than mine, in my opinon anyway

John

MikeR - 19/12/08 at 05:26 PM

Wait, we can't stop now -

Why did Carpamart get the 'thanks', that was my letter. All he did was correct a little mistake i'd made with a captial 'f' (something i wasn't aware off - hopefully i'll remember that now).

This isn't fair, its a fix. Studmuffin you're a cad and bounder. You know nothing and if i met you in real life i'd punch you on your conrod!

Humph