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John Bonnett

posted on 29/12/07 at 03:16 PM Reply With Quote
Q Plate vs Age Related Plate

I shall probably have no choice when the DVLA issue either a Q or age related registration. I can prove the age of the engine and state the registration of the donor from which the gearbox was taken so I may have grounds for asking for a/r. However, I don't want to shoot myself in the foot and opt for a/r when perhaps there might be an advantage in having a Q so I would welcome your opinions on whether to push for a/r or Q.

If I get an age related plate, will the year of registration on the V5 be 2008 or the year of the age related plate. Will the car need an MOT before it can be taxed?

If a Q plate is issued, presumably it will be a 2008 registration and probably not need an MOT for 3 years.

I would very much welcome some advice here on what I perceive to be a very grey area.

Many thanks in advance.

John






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Hellfire

posted on 29/12/07 at 03:22 PM Reply With Quote
Try doing a search in the archives. This has been discussed loads of times.

Phil






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tks

posted on 29/12/07 at 03:26 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Try doing a search in the archives. This has been discussed loads of times.

Phil



yeah 100% MY THOUGHTS WHEN READING IT ON THE START PAGE..



TKS





The above comments are always meant to be from the above persons perspective.

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John Bonnett

posted on 29/12/07 at 03:38 PM Reply With Quote
Thank you Phil and TKS.

I have already had a quick search and cannot find the answers to my specific questions.

John






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Jon Ison

posted on 29/12/07 at 03:56 PM Reply With Quote
It takes just as long to type "search for the answer" as it does to give an answer, why not close the forum and just use the search facility ?

That said I have tried search myself and find it takes forever to find you cant find what your trying to find most of the time.

No happy new year posts please, its been done to death, use search........

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JohnN

posted on 29/12/07 at 04:07 PM Reply With Quote
Both will have the date you register it after SVA as the date of first registration

Mine was age related and doesn't need an MOT for 3 years, don't see why a Q plate would be different

Mine was a "J", pre catalytic convertor, and will ultimately be assessed for emissions at an MOT as a pre cat car.

A "Q" plate is visible smoke only, no gas testing (could be seen as a benefit)

There, it's all technicolour now

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John Bonnett

posted on 29/12/07 at 04:20 PM Reply With Quote
Thank you JohnN for your answer to my questions.

I am very sorry to have caused a stir over the search facility but I did look first but although there are many threads relating to Q and a/r I could not see the answers to my questions.

Once again thank you to all.

John






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JoelP

posted on 29/12/07 at 04:25 PM Reply With Quote
one problem with this subject is that it is mentioned so often that the search engine finds too many references to it, and not that many that are really relevant - and a fair few recommending the old "UTFSE" (use the f-in search engine!), which is no help for someone already using it!
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Hellfire

posted on 29/12/07 at 04:52 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
It takes just as long to type "search for the answer" as it does to give an answer, why not close the forum and just use the search facility ?

That said I have tried search myself and find it takes forever to find you cant find what your trying to find most of the time.

No happy new year posts please, its been done to death, use search........


Jon, that must have took you longer to type than an actual answer to the question would have.

John (Bonnet), I didn't mean to sound curt, it's just that this particular question seems to be asked almost on a weekly basis. If you'd stated in your original post that you'd already done a search, my response would have been different. Apologies........

Phil






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zetec

posted on 29/12/07 at 06:03 PM Reply With Quote
totalkitcar.com had some useful info on the subject.





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stevebubs

posted on 29/12/07 at 06:18 PM Reply With Quote
Use the site:www.locostbuilders.co.uk functionality in google
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speedyxjs

posted on 29/12/07 at 06:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
No happy new year posts please, its been done to death, use search........








How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?

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roadrunner

posted on 29/12/07 at 07:13 PM Reply With Quote
If you get a Q plate it will need an MOT the next year, only age related cars get the three year pass, but you do get smoke only emission test on a Q, i prefer being on a Q plate because there is no age reference.






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Jon Ison

posted on 29/12/07 at 07:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
No happy new year posts please, its been done to death, use search........






Here, I'm feeling grumpy...

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Simon

posted on 29/12/07 at 08:13 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by roadrunner
If you get a Q plate it will need an MOT the next year, only age related cars get the three year pass.


Bull

I just retaxed mine (on a Q) and it was registered on 3/1/06 (not quite 2 years ago). The prob arises because the Q throws up a "MOT required" on the RFL reminder. Take it to local DVLA, explain it to them (which I did) and get taxed.

ATB

Simon

[Edited on 29/12/07 by Simon]






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02GF74

posted on 29/12/07 at 08:58 PM Reply With Quote
this thread covers a lot of your queries and about the MOT for a Q.
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BenB

posted on 29/12/07 at 10:27 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by roadrunner
If you get a Q plate it will need an MOT the next year, only age related cars get the three year pass, but you do get smoke only emission test on a Q, i prefer being on a Q plate because there is no age reference.


Don't tell anyone but I just got my Q plate taxed after a year without an MOT. Initially they wanted an MOT but I quibbled and they gave in.....

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907

posted on 30/12/07 at 12:13 AM Reply With Quote
Hi John,

I can't help much with your questions as it seems to me that it all depends on where you live, and who deals with registration.

As for the "Q" or the "A/R" I see it as being between the devil and the deep blue sea.
To the non enthusiastic tintop owner a Q will mean it's some crap kit car.
With an E,F,G,H,J,K plate he will think it's something off eBay bought for a few hundred quid.
To the "classic car brigade" it's not "original", so it's rubbish.

I really couldn't care less what people think, as far as the general public goes.


As for a yearly MOT, (ducks for cover) I feel that it's a good thing.
IMHO, for a car made of S/H parts to get a "look over" by a qualified inspector once a year, is OK.
Yes I know people will say that we know our cars inside out, but how many are sold on after just a few months
to some bloke with little or no knowledge of car maintenance?

Anyway, enough of my ramblings,

Happy New Year

Paul G

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John Bonnett

posted on 30/12/07 at 11:47 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks to all of you who have taken the trouble to reply. I'm sorry it created so much heat regarding the search facility. In my defence, I don't think my questions were answered in previous threads but have now been covered in your replies.

Personally, I see no problem with a Q plate and indeed I almost expect kit and scratch built cars to have a Q registration. I certainly don't think a Q detracts from its value or puts up the insurance premium.

As far as an MOT is concered, I agree with Paul (907). An MOT is not a huge expense and it is a very good way of having a second eye checking over the safety aspects of the car.

So, to conclude, in the light of what has been said, I really don't mind whether I am issued a Q or A/R plate and an annual MOT is not a wholly bad thing.

Once again, my thanks to all of you and a very happy New Year.

John






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roadrunner

posted on 30/12/07 at 08:12 PM Reply With Quote
I talked to the DVLA about the MOT in the first couple of years, and they said because they couldnt comfirm the age of the engine, it had to be MOT'd.






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