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Author: Subject: SVA- will i have to have full re-test??
Krismc

posted on 19/10/08 at 07:25 PM Reply With Quote
SVA- will i have to have full re-test??

As some of you may know ive had probs with the megasquirt and my car has been at BEC owners for some time now (about a year) he took it for the sva but it failed on emmisions, now i payed for a full sva at birmingham, now that its coming home un svaed im going to have to sort the emmisions out my self(great) and then re-test at newcastle probably so>>>>

Do I
a) Re-test at birmingham and hope that its all ok but will cost me the earth to get there
b) can i re-test at newcastle

c) do i have to sit a full test again at newcastle?

and cost will be another £400, if so the car will be for sale as i just cant spend anymore on it!



[Edited on 19/10/08 by Krismc]





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tjoh84

posted on 19/10/08 at 07:57 PM Reply With Quote
BEC owners another happy cust then
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adithorp

posted on 19/10/08 at 07:58 PM Reply With Quote
As Chris says I think there's is a time limit on re-tests. After that its a full test. It's also got to be the original centre I think other wise again it's a full test.

£400??? I'm sure it was about £150ish when I had mine.

Edit...Just had a look and the fee is now £190 and £38 for retest.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_10018282

adrian

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02GF74

posted on 19/10/08 at 08:24 PM Reply With Quote
you have 6 months for the first retest then another month for the second retest.

I know, I did both!

after that you are back to square one - i.e. full fee and full SVA.

I am not sure but would guess what they test is at the tester's discretion - in my case I did it all at same station so they only looked at what had failed previously.

Since the failed items are listed and you pay a lot less for the retest, it would make sense to just retest the failed items regardless of the station that failed them.

.... but the answer is a phone call away - ring 'em up.






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DarrenW

posted on 20/10/08 at 08:04 AM Reply With Quote
A couple of things worry me in your post Kris. New Sva and gosforth.

Why not get MNR to sort it out and re-test and Beverley.

Failing that Mac#1 might do it for a fee if you chat to Mark or Colin.

Knowing the grief you are going through id hate you to get the car back, have some of the lads round to do the best they can and then still fail marginally. i know a few of the locals have done good work setting up fuel injection but they were on raod legal cars, not cars needing to go through SVA.






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DarrenW

posted on 20/10/08 at 08:10 AM Reply With Quote
Ill just clarify what i meant about last reply in case the SVA guys are reading. I have a lot of time and respect for Gosforth SVA. They did a great job on my car and i was left knowing i had a safe and well built car. However for whatever reason there seems to be some issue with MNR's being tested up there. I dont know what it is and can only guess that the first guy to be tested with one didnt.... well how should i put this....... take the constructive comments in the spirit which they were intended.




There cant be anything majorly wrong with your car Kris. It has all the right bits.






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Krismc

posted on 20/10/08 at 03:38 PM Reply With Quote
Yea cheers guys i cant get a full answer for VOSA about the re-test, ive been asked to email them so i have and await there reply.

£400 was a rough guess for fuel, borrow car, borrow trailer Sva fees etc. etc.





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Krismc

posted on 20/10/08 at 03:40 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DarrenW
A couple of things worry me in your post Kris. New Sva and gosforth.

Why not get MNR to sort it out and re-test and Beverley.

Failing that Mac#1 might do it for a fee if you chat to Mark or Colin.

Knowing the grief you are going through id hate you to get the car back, have some of the lads round to do the best they can and then still fail marginally. i know a few of the locals have done good work setting up fuel injection but they were on raod legal cars, not cars needing to go through SVA.



Id take it too MNR but they aint that familier with car engines, would MAC 1 possibly SVA it for me?? where are they based??


just as i sent that last one my phone rang


Re-test is at birmingham ''only'' at a cost of £38, my settings for engine have too be fast idle 3000rpm less than 0.3Co and less than 200Hc, and at idle less than 0.5Co and 200Hc and a reading of .97- 1.03 lambda

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DarrenW

posted on 20/10/08 at 04:09 PM Reply With Quote
Mac#1 are at Sheffield. i was thinking after last post - your problem with getting pro place to do the car is that few will touch home made FI and ECU's. You somehow need to find somewhere that has pro engine analysers and someone else who is familiar with megasquirt.

I really cant believe there isnt anyone else out there with similar set up that has gone through SVA. What were your last SVA readings?

My only other suggestion would be to see if Terry (Middlesborough) still has his Dax set up to see if he may 'loan' you the injection stuff off his. Might not be quite so easy in practice though. Im sure he has Jenveys and pro ECU on his zetec set up he was selling. (cant remebre user name - THC yosemite Sam or something like that).

Oioi set his own up - got someone to drive his car while he played with laptop. Didnt need to pass SVA though. You might get a result if someone can lend you wideband lambda kit. Then perhaps quick trip to local MOT place to check the readings.


After that you could try the megasquirt website to see if there is anyone else who can help.






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marc n

posted on 20/10/08 at 06:59 PM Reply With Quote
hi chris

could you not run on carbs to get through sva ??? if the megasquirt isnt playing ball, is the cat in good condition, have you got any figures from when it failed to give an idea of where the problem is ???


cheers

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Krismc

posted on 22/10/08 at 09:33 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DarrenW
Mac#1 are at Sheffield. i was thinking after last post - your problem with getting pro place to do the car is that few will touch home made FI and ECU's. You somehow need to find somewhere that has pro engine analysers and someone else who is familiar with megasquirt.

I really cant believe there isnt anyone else out there with similar set up that has gone through SVA. What were your last SVA readings?

My only other suggestion would be to see if Terry (Middlesborough) still has his Dax set up to see if he may 'loan' you the injection stuff off his. Might not be quite so easy in practice though. Im sure he has Jenveys and pro ECU on his zetec set up he was selling. (cant remebre user name - THC yosemite Sam or something like that).

Oioi set his own up - got someone to drive his car while he played with laptop. Didnt need to pass SVA though. You might get a result if someone can lend you wideband lambda kit. Then perhaps quick trip to local MOT place to check the readings.


After that you could try the megasquirt website to see if there is anyone else who can help.


Yea a jenvey set up would be nice but...££COST

and ive got a LC1 lamda kit it just needs fitting.





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Krismc

posted on 22/10/08 at 09:39 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by marc n
hi chris

could you not run on carbs to get through sva ???


cheers

marc


Good idea but I was told a while back (not sure who said) that there would be know way of getting a new zetec through SVA with Carbs........ but if some one can prove it can i would give it a try.


quote:

if the megasquirt isnt playing ball, is the cat in good condition, have you got any figures from when it failed to give an idea of where the problem is ???




Not sure about the cat, but i have another one that is brand new that i removed from my audi a while back it doesnt look pretty but ill fit it once i get the car back home.

As for the fail sheet, im sure chris said that he didnt get no paper work of the exact fail points?? so im not entirely sure. but ill ask when i see him.





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