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Author: Subject: Is this car street legal (I don't think so)?
Triton

posted on 29/12/08 at 05:37 PM Reply With Quote
Sva is a good idea don't get me wrong but as you can change things afterward and still be legal in the eyes of mot bods and the plod it does make you wonder why





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mr henderson

posted on 29/12/08 at 05:46 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Richard Quinn
quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
Well, we're not really deciding, we're discussing.

touting the car as being street legal, when it isn't.
Sounds like you've already decided!


Indeed I have, and have explained my reasons. The discussion continues with you saying what you think. What do you think? Legal or not?

John






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Simon

posted on 29/12/08 at 06:05 PM Reply With Quote
Don't know what the prob is - he also built a Mini (http://www.flatmobile.co.uk/lowlife/pages/frmset1.htm), which Guiness confirmed as the lowest legal car.

So that proves it's ok then

Kinda reminds me of the stuff Andy Saunders used to turn out donkey's years ago.

ATB

Simon

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mr henderson

posted on 29/12/08 at 06:44 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Simon
Don't know what the prob is - he also built a Mini (http://www.flatmobile.co.uk/lowlife/pages/frmset1.htm), which Guiness confirmed as the lowest legal car.

So that proves it's ok then



Absolutely, in fact I understand that the Guinness Book of Records has now taken over the functions of the DVLA, and will be administering the SVA and IVA tests from now on!






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FEZ1025

posted on 30/12/08 at 04:55 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
There are hundreds of Trials bike on the road with no lights.


Not true they have to have a working brake light operated from both brakes to be legal

Alan...

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rusty nuts

posted on 30/12/08 at 05:43 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Triton
It's no different to folk changing their cars after SVA..and nearly everyone does that!!!!!



As if I would do that?

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flak monkey

posted on 30/12/08 at 05:54 PM Reply With Quote
Dont see what the fuss is about.

The 'chassis' is unmodified - he hasnt removed anything from the floorpan - all he has chopped is the bodywork, as can be seen in the build photos. This is no different to building a Dakar (land rover with the body chopped off and GRP body plonked on top) or any other of a whole host of cars where the original body is chopped off or removed/modified to create the new car.

All you need is an MOT and you are sorted.

With the amount of publicity the flatmobile cars have had, I doubt they would have slipped through the SVA and VOSA's all seeing eye.

David





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mr henderson

posted on 30/12/08 at 06:16 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by flak monkey


With the amount of publicity the flatmobile cars have had, I doubt they would have slipped through the SVA and VOSA's all seeing eye.



Can't see the fact that the VOSA haven't, as far as we know, done anything about this car proves that the car is legal.

Perhaps (if we are at all interested) we should ask ourselves two questions-

1) should this car have been submitted for an SVA test?

2) Would it have passed such a test? I realise that it could be claimed that the headlights are not needed if the vehicle is only used during the day, but what about the heights of the indicators and brake lights?


John






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iiyama

posted on 1/1/09 at 09:59 AM Reply With Quote
Would it have passed SVA? With out a shadow of doubt it wouldnt. Why ask a question that you know the answer to?

Should it have been submitted for an SVA? Nope, under the current rules it dosent need one.

Is it a waste of time? Maybe of yours, but you havent built it! Im sure he loved every minute of it and thats what counts. Im building a Dax Rush, maybe he thinks that its a waste of time but what do I care? I dont because basically its non of his business as its my time.





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mr henderson

posted on 1/1/09 at 01:31 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by iiyama


Should it have been submitted for an SVA? Nope, under the current rules it dosent need one.




Well I guess that's the question! I've looked into this and can't find any written rules that would seem to apply. There is some anecdotal evidence that cars with modified bodyshells need to be submitted for an SVA test, and if that's true, then I would say it applies to the car in question because that is a modified bodyshell.

If anyone has a link to some official guidance on this subject I would be interested to see it.

John






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iiyama

posted on 1/1/09 at 04:28 PM Reply With Quote
Well to paraphrase:-
Where would we be with not enough rules? France. Where would we be with too many rules? Germany!

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