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hootsno1

posted on 18/12/11 at 06:10 PM Reply With Quote
engine and new reg?

Hi all
I have a used 2.0 duratec engine in my garage waiting to be fitted but i would like at least a 57 reg plate for my car, my problem is that my gearbox and diff are recon items and class as my 1 used item.
If i was to fit a recon bike engine 1st then change the engine back to the duratec after the IVA and registration would i get away with it?
Or is there a simpler way round this problem.
Many Thanks
Mark





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mark chandler

posted on 18/12/11 at 06:23 PM Reply With Quote
Once you have your registration you are free to do what you like, but a brand new bike engine will cost £££ when you can get a new Zetec for £750, *NEW* Ford Zetec Engine 2.0L Black Top High Spec Zetec-R Kit Car Focus Fiesta | eBay.

And a new Gearbox, dunno if this one will fit Ford MT75 Gearbox Sierra Granada Scorpio R988T-7003-BA 2.0 Litre DOHC NEW !!! | eBay

Sell on the duratec

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loggyboy

posted on 18/12/11 at 06:28 PM Reply With Quote
A recon bike engine (which would automatically be classed as a recon gearbox too) and then recon diff would end up with a Q plate as thats 2(or 3) recon parts, and you can only have 1.
Must also be recon'd to an 'as new' standard, not just cleaned up with a lick of paint etc!

[Edited on 18/12/11 by loggyboy]

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hootsno1

posted on 18/12/11 at 06:30 PM Reply With Quote
Looks like i will have to sell the used duratec and buy a new one then





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daniel mason

posted on 18/12/11 at 06:33 PM Reply With Quote
Or get a receipt saying your gearbox and diff have been re-built to as new






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daniel mason

posted on 18/12/11 at 06:35 PM Reply With Quote
You won't get a q if you have a donor. You will get age related. New plates for cars with only 1 recon part






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hootsno1

posted on 18/12/11 at 06:43 PM Reply With Quote
Is there anywhere that still sell new diffs?
I have a receipt for a new gearbox casing, as the mt75 from the sierra won't fit the duratec but the transit 2.3 LPg duratec is basically a sierra mt75 with a new bell housing that fits the duratec





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daniel mason

posted on 18/12/11 at 07:04 PM Reply With Quote
Why do you want a 57 plate? Do you have a donor v5? Age related plates are fine,as are q plates






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plentywahalla

posted on 18/12/11 at 07:05 PM Reply With Quote
I bought a new 7.5" sierra diff from Bearingkits.co.uk. He had a load of them a year ago for £550.

He may have some left. They are open diffs, but my plan is to buy a used lsd after IVA and swop the innards over. Or buy a quaife if i can afford it!





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plentywahalla

posted on 18/12/11 at 07:08 PM Reply With Quote
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Or get a receipt saying your gearbox and diff have been re-built to as new


That won't get you a new reg as they will still be classed as 2 recon components and only one is allowed.





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loggyboy

posted on 18/12/11 at 07:10 PM Reply With Quote
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quote:
Originally posted by daniel mason
Or get a receipt saying your gearbox and diff have been re-built to as new


That won't get you a new reg as they will still be classed as 2 recon components and only one is allowed.


Not strictly, as the wording on the form is 'transmission' therfore incorporating gearbox and Diff. However driveshafts are listed seperately so they will need to be new.

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hootsno1

posted on 18/12/11 at 07:15 PM Reply With Quote
The reg that i want is GB57ERO
I will just buy a new duratec as this would be the simplest route.





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loggyboy

posted on 18/12/11 at 07:28 PM Reply With Quote
Well you need to find a donor which is 57 plate or newer, or aim for a new reg (ie 61 plate or 12 plate depending on when you register it obviously)
Do you plan on buying the GB57 plate from the DVLA? if so have you checked its availablity?

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hootsno1

posted on 18/12/11 at 07:37 PM Reply With Quote
It was available I have not checked it in the past week if i have got to go for a new reg that will do then i will change the plates at a later date i just don't want to buy the plate and won't be able to use it on my Zero





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loggyboy

posted on 18/12/11 at 07:40 PM Reply With Quote
Buy it and if you cant use it, sell it to GBS, im sure they would have it on their demo car!
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austin man

posted on 18/12/11 at 07:41 PM Reply With Quote
think you would possibly ahve to Go the MX5 route to get a donnor plate on a 57 all sierras are single letters then numbers ie F246 TRW (hope thats no one plate )





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plentywahalla

posted on 18/12/11 at 08:03 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by plentywahalla
quote:
Originally posted by daniel mason
Or get a receipt saying your gearbox and diff have been re-built to as new


That won't get you a new reg as they will still be classed as 2 recon components and only one is allowed.


Not strictly, as the wording on the form is 'transmission' therfore incorporating gearbox and Diff. However driveshafts are listed seperately so they will need to be new.


That's an interesting interpretation. I had always read it as meaning the diff was part of the back axle. So do they classify a live axle as being 'transmission' all the way to the hubs!





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matt_gsxr

posted on 18/12/11 at 08:47 PM Reply With Quote
Caterham will sell you a new diff that looks like a Sierra on to me (£1500 inc vat).
Or a recon one from Westfield for £380 (probably recon to new condition, but check first).

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