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Author: Subject: MOT for built up vehicle report
nick9one1

posted on 17/10/23 at 12:28 PM Reply With Quote
MOT for built up vehicle report

My build is nearly complete, and will be registered as a radically modified vehicle.
I have filled the forms in once previously and was told by the DVLA the car needs to be MOT'd to be registered.
I've since been told that this is a mistake, and that it doesn't.

Does anyone know for sure?

Thanks!

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loggyboy

posted on 17/10/23 at 01:02 PM Reply With Quote
Are you keeping the original chassis and reg?
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nick9one1

posted on 17/10/23 at 01:08 PM Reply With Quote
Yes, I've calculated there are enough original parts inc chassis to keep the original reg.






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loggyboy

posted on 17/10/23 at 01:11 PM Reply With Quote
I would suggest it is MoT first then, as its doesnt require an IVA.
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adithorp

posted on 17/10/23 at 06:40 PM Reply With Quote
So that's an "original chassis, monocoque body or frame" is it?
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coyoteboy

posted on 18/10/23 at 01:55 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nick9one1
Yes, I've calculated there are enough original parts inc chassis to keep the original reg.








That's not a beetle chassis and suspension.

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peter030371

posted on 18/10/23 at 08:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy

That's not a beetle chassis and suspension.

From what I can see other than the colour of the front springs that looks like an original 1303 super beetle floorpan and suspension. No to be confused with the more common front torsion spring beetle setup on the non-super models

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JoelP

posted on 19/10/23 at 06:26 AM Reply With Quote
I'd have to agree that that doesn't remotely look like an unmodified chassis. You literally have a new tubular chassis there, with a floor pan attached.





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cliftyhanger

posted on 19/10/23 at 07:28 AM Reply With Quote
Looks like a beetle chassis with the exo frame sat on top, so legit. Probably
https://assets.primecreative.com.au/s3/cougar-assets/momo-media/19528971/vw-beetle-4.jpg

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peter030371

posted on 19/10/23 at 08:32 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cliftyhanger
Looks like a beetle chassis with the exo frame sat on top, so legit. Probably
https://assets.primecreative.com.au/s3/cougar-assets/momo-media/19528971/vw-beetle-4.jpg


Exactly, that link shows a Beetle 'chassis'. The exo frame is just a new body which you are allowed to change without IVA I believe as long as the 'chassis' is not modified.

I have been looking into this as I have a 1973 Beetle which I would like to use to make a 356 replica and to do that the chassis has to be shortened so in my case and IVA is needed.

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Mr Whippy

posted on 19/10/23 at 11:34 AM Reply With Quote
You need to think before hand, do I really need to deal with the DVLA?? and avoid them at all costs unless absolutely essential.

With that car, you should have fitted the frame first with the original engine, got the colour changed and MOT'd. Then fitted the new engine and got the garage to confirm the CC change for the tax class. However it should be road tax free as the last super was 1975. Plus before converting it you could have applied for historic vehicle class as a bugs over the 40 years so MOT requirement, then all you'd have had to pay for each year is the insurance.

[Edited on 19/10/23 by Mr Whippy]

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gremlin1234

posted on 19/10/23 at 04:10 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
You need to think before hand, do I really need to deal with the DVLA?? and avoid them at all costs unless absolutely essential.

With that car, you should have fitted the frame first with the original engine, got the colour changed and MOT'd. Then fitted the new engine and got the garage to confirm the CC change for the tax class. However it should be road tax free as the last super was 1975. Plus before converting it you could have applied for historic vehicle class as a bugs over the 40 years so MOT requirement, then all you'd have had to pay for each year is the insurance.

[Edited on 19/10/23 by Mr Whippy]
though it might get classic tax at zero rate, it will need a mot each year, because it has been modified within the last 30 years.
edit:
and dvla do need to be informed; because it is a substantially modified vehicle.

[Edited on 19-10-2023 by gremlin1234]

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Mr Whippy

posted on 20/10/23 at 06:54 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gremlin1234
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
You need to think before hand, do I really need to deal with the DVLA?? and avoid them at all costs unless absolutely essential.

With that car, you should have fitted the frame first with the original engine, got the colour changed and MOT'd. Then fitted the new engine and got the garage to confirm the CC change for the tax class. However it should be road tax free as the last super was 1975. Plus before converting it you could have applied for historic vehicle class as a bugs over the 40 years so MOT requirement, then all you'd have had to pay for each year is the insurance.

[Edited on 19/10/23 by Mr Whippy]
though it might get classic tax at zero rate, it will need a mot each year, because it has been modified within the last 30 years.
edit:
and dvla do need to be informed; because it is a substantially modified vehicle.

[Edited on 19-10-2023 by gremlin1234]


Yep that's what honesty gets you, there's been sand rails built since the 70's so who is ever to prove it wasn't converted to one 30 years ago??

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coyoteboy

posted on 20/10/23 at 09:03 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by peter030371
quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy

That's not a beetle chassis and suspension.

From what I can see other than the colour of the front springs that looks like an original 1303 super beetle floorpan and suspension. No to be confused with the more common front torsion spring beetle setup on the non-super models


You're right, I eat my words!

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posted on 22/10/23 at 09:22 PM Reply With Quote
I was going to start a new post on something like this. I have seen two sylva strikers over the last week listed on ebay with the listing stating no Mot or Tax need as it came from a mk2 escort.

The listing look like car dealers trying to be the private listers & don't no anything about kitcars


Below is the link of the one still listed


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155840037127?hash=item2448ca4107:g:m4gAAOSwL3plMpvv&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwNqjr105Zxh2OZAUx8IA2qTJ5ZInLDImIOJedz7FUvPNpf KXNK%2BUhNsJf7Z7pSfqLjWUhRjup7cRl7PUonZntCmwhzZBssA6G39Y4%2BOqmB2%2F2S4xSeKIsAjMBmNimGsViMF%2BT2iGeKcL5Rs89mj2t5XKCQW0ITKw7SoToWjO7TEhe7o7x4G%2BwZ7ktX gei8Rmy8Ut6gxFK362ex6fPATvzr70%2Fje6eLYzhr6Zd4MMZWZxeu4oFMeAZ95oIAu%2FFb2KXw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5Kn85PrYg





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loggyboy

posted on 23/10/23 at 10:23 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jester
I was going to start a new post on something like this. I have seen two sylva strikers over the last week listed on ebay with the listing stating no Mot or Tax need as it came from a mk2 escort.

The listing look like car dealers trying to be the private listers & don't no anything about kitcars


Below is the link of the one still listed


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155840037127?hash=item2448ca4107:g:m4gAAOSwL3plMpvv&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwNqjr105Zxh2OZAUx8IA2qTJ5ZInLDImIOJedz7FUvPNpf KXNK%2BUhNsJf7Z7pSfqLjWUhRjup7cRl7PUonZntCmwhzZBssA6G39Y4%2BOqmB2%2F2S4xSeKIsAjMBmNimGsViMF%2BT2iGeKcL5Rs89mj2t5XKCQW0ITKw7SoToWjO7TEhe7o7x4G%2BwZ7ktX gei8Rmy8Ut6gxFK362ex6fPATvzr70%2Fje6eLYzhr6Zd4MMZWZxeu4oFMeAZ95oIAu%2FFb2KXw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5Kn85PrYg


The styker comes up as MoTd and as a stryker on mot check so must must be the case.


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[Edited on 23/10/23 by loggyboy]

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