Paradoxia0
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| posted on 18/4/07 at 11:48 PM |
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Registration plate / year questions...
In fear of asking what has been asked before (but still not being able to get my head around it...)
I have a Luego Viento that is nearing completion.
Obviously it is a manufacturers kit
It has a rebuilt as new engine and gearbox (by a very well respected Rover V8 company) out of a '92 vehicle.
All other companents are new (or bought reconditioned as new from motorfactors etc.) and I have receipts for all parts.
My questions is:
1. Should I be trying to register this on a '92 plate (age related to engine/gearbox major companents)
2. Should I try to get this registered as a new '07 plate? (As it is all as new)
3. Should I just say sod it and get a Q plate? (to save the grief!)
If I fitted the criteria for option 2, would the car then require CATs etc as it is a "new" vehicle or would is still not need them
because the engine was originally pre-CAT?
I am getting very confused and don't want to mess up my chances for going for a plate I cannot have.
If anyone knows then please send your answer on the back of an envelope  or better still on here! 
Cheers
Mark
There is no replacement for displacement...
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DavidM
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| posted on 19/4/07 at 01:38 AM |
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For a new plate all parts have to be new, except one, usually the engine which must be reconditioned to "as new" specification. Emissions
should get printed on the V5C, based on engine age/emissions at SVA.
For an age related plate the car must have a new chassis and two major components from the donor car, for which you'll need the V5C.
It is sometimes a bit of a lottery at DVLA, so you could end up with any of your options depending on who deals with the registration of your car.
They're not always very good at interpreting their own rules.
David
[Edited on 19/4/07 by DavidM]
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worX
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| posted on 19/4/07 at 06:48 AM |
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I'll second what was put above, but will also add that a lot of the BEC's seem to get away with a new plate as when they present a receipt
with the engine reconditioned on it, that seems to be readily acceptable that it is the engine and GEARBOX that has been reconditioned as a SINGLE
unit.
I don't know how you will fair as it might be that your engine and 'box are classed as two seperate units, and therefore might fail on the
"only one major part can be reconditioned" elegibility for a new Reg.
It's a tricky one, esp when you consider which engine you are running and the emissions you would have to comply with every year for MOT if it
was on an '07 plate!
I went for it, and I now have the '07, but with a little blade engine, some fine tuning and a CAT stuck back on each time, I am sure that it is
manageable for me?!?
cheers and hth,
Steve.
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02GF74
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| posted on 19/4/07 at 08:01 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Paradoxia0
All other companents are new (or bought reconditioned as new from motorfactors etc.) and I have receipts for all parts.
surely that is not new then?
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RazMan
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| posted on 19/4/07 at 08:08 AM |
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The receipts are the key here - if you can submit receipts that state the word 'new' somewhere then you will have no problem. It might be
worth having a word with the supplier to see if they will amend their invoice
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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graememk
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| posted on 19/4/07 at 08:21 AM |
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wont you struggle with emissions for further mot tests ? i could of got a new reg for my indy but i accidently lost my invoices as i wanted a Q.
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Paradoxia0
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| posted on 19/4/07 at 08:32 AM |
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The emissions is my biggest concern.
I think the Q plate is by far the safest as it then assumes pre-1986 emissions (I believe) so makes it far easier at MOT etc. Age related will be
emissions for the age of the engine and then presumably '07 would be to the latest emission laws - with a '92 Range Rover 4.2 V8 that is
going to be tough...
I suppose that narrows it down to either a Q plate or age realted in reality then.
What are the pros and cons for each?
Mark
There is no replacement for displacement...
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RazMan
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| posted on 19/4/07 at 08:53 AM |
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The emissions are transfered from your mac to the V5 so MOT tests will use the same levels. In my case the tester couldn't find my engine number
on his database so he passed it as a non-cat engine - this is now what is on my V5, even though my engine is a '97 model.
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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pajsh
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| posted on 19/4/07 at 12:14 PM |
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Razman you must have been lucky as I had to spend 15 minutes convincing my inspector he could read a quite feint engine marking. Otherwise I would
have failed at first base because I could not prove the age of the engine and had no cat.
My understanding (similar to above) is:-
For SVA, emmisions will be based on engine age and you have to prove it. Therefore if you can prove it's a 92 then you get away without a cat.
If you can't prove it you fall into the stricter limits and need a cat.
For Registration you need a V5 to get an age related plate for a "kit conversion". If you have no V5 you get a "Q" unless (as
stated above) you can go for new.
As stated above DVLA interpretations do vary between regions so you might be lucky if you apply for an age related plate.
If you don't have a V5 then Q has to be the best bet as you will not have to fit a cat SVA emmisions (assuming you can prove the age of the
engine) and future MOT's will be visual inspection only.
I used to be apathetic but now I just don't care.
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