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Author: Subject: fuel pipe and wiring loom
martin1973

posted on 24/10/07 at 02:37 PM Reply With Quote
fuel pipe and wiring loom

is it ok to clip them together? under the tunnel?








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twybrow

posted on 24/10/07 at 03:01 PM Reply With Quote
Crap, I hope so. I have routed all of my wiring through the middle of the two fuel pipes!






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fesycresy

posted on 24/10/07 at 03:05 PM Reply With Quote
You can't strap a live cable to the fuel pipe.

What happens if you get a fault - think about it !





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JAG

posted on 24/10/07 at 03:34 PM Reply With Quote
I did something very similar on my car and it passed SVA.

I have two fuel pipes, feed & return, and the loom runs between them to feed the rear lights, fuel pump etc...





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ditchlewis

posted on 24/10/07 at 03:35 PM Reply With Quote
NO

the SVA manual states the mix.

Electrical has to be on the opposite side to the Fuel. the brake lines can be on either side (with the fuel or the electrical).


if the fuel and elec are on the same side it is a fail.

ditch

Jag

i'm very supprised at that
the tester must have thought that they were the brake pipes

[Edited on 24/10/07 by ditchlewis]

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02GF74

posted on 24/10/07 at 03:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ditchlewis


the SVA manual states the mix.

Electrical has to be on the opposite side to the Fuel.



Out of curiousity I have been looking at the manual. Ch 15, Vehcile Design and Construction - General talks about wiring and fuel pipes.

fuel pipes: secure, not chafed, away from heat source

components should be positoned to minimsed risk of fire in event of a fuel leak.

electrics: similar as above, secured at not more than 300 mm apart

It does not state that fuel lines must be away from wiring - but that could be due to interpretation of examiner re: components should be positoned to minimsed risk of fire in event of a fuel leak.

Personally, if it were me constructing, it would make 100% sense to run electrics down one side of tunnel and fuel along other - surely if you are building this right now, it is not a big deal? Certainly a lot easier now when complete.

[Edited on 24/10/07 by 02GF74]

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ditchlewis

posted on 24/10/07 at 04:25 PM Reply With Quote
02GF74 you are right. the MK build manual states that fuel & electric should not be mixed so i used that to interpret the manual.

as far as i'm concerned fuel and electricity dont mix (unless you want a fire) so i have kept them as far apart as i could especially in an enclosed space such as the trans tunnel where the condition of cabels and connections are hard to see.

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martin1973

posted on 24/10/07 at 04:28 PM Reply With Quote
aherm well guess i'll be changing it them

put the wiring at the top and the fuel line at the bottom of the tunnel.








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Dave Bailey

posted on 24/10/07 at 05:27 PM Reply With Quote
I have done the same...Fuel lines at the bottom and wiring at the top....Surely this is o.k. What is the difference between this and being on the opposite side. In fact they are probably further apart..... Fuel at the top and wiring at the bottom agreed is not good...

Do I have to change mine also?

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Danozeman

posted on 24/10/07 at 08:19 PM Reply With Quote
I dont see how top and bottom is a problem as theyr not touching..





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graememk

posted on 24/10/07 at 09:36 PM Reply With Quote
mine run the same side but wires at the top and fuel and breaks at the bottom.

didnt plan it like that though its just where i put them at the time.






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ditchlewis

posted on 25/10/07 at 07:34 AM Reply With Quote
lets be honest if there is a petrol leak a spark will ignight the vapor anyway


the sva man is very pragmatic and as long as it looks ok and is not obviously dangerouse he will be OK

so best to keep them apart and not cable tied together

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twybrow

posted on 26/10/07 at 09:09 AM Reply With Quote
My fuel lines are stainless steel running along the transmission tunnel. My wiring is a multicore cable. The only place the wiring becomes closer is at the very front (under dash) as I have fed all of the the wires through the final 30cm of transmission tunnel, and slotted them between the two fuel lines. How on earth would a spark start a fire in a metal pipe full of fuel? Fair enough if you damage the fuel pipe, or a connection, then there is a risk, but there is a risk there any how... How about the fact that you have wires running to the fuel tank? Or even current passing into the fuel tank for the pump/sender - surely this is more dangerous?






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