I'm trying to think of an alternative to riveting P clips to mount my brake pipes. Being a bit provocative, I'm going to suggest that if cable ties are OK for wiring looms, then why not for brake pipes. After all, the ends are going to be located firmly on brackets so why not?

If not, then what other way can I mount them?

the teeth in a cable tie might be considered as a serated (sp?) edge and therefore could wear through the pipe and cause failure

[Edited on 10/2/08 by jos]

Use the proper clips properly spaced and there will be no hassle at SVA. You can get ones that will hold a fuel pipe as well , kill two birds with one stone?

My sva made me even put spiral wrap on bends to prevent vibration chaffing, so best do it the right way and use P-clips.
If you use the aluminium ones make sure that they have the sleeving inside.

Its rivets rather than P clips that I want to avoid. What do production cars use?

Production cars use brake pipe clips.

Rally Design sell Automec ones as a spru of 10 for about £2 (the rally design picture is wrong and shows the box of 200ish different types).

http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1209_1210&products_id=9971

edit: Found a picture at Demon Tweeks
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDetail.asp?cls=MSPORT&pcode=S/CB10316


[Edited on 10/2/08 by iank]

I bought some tie wraps with a double loop so you can secure them to something and then loop something else in it securely. They were ok for SVA when I went. Plastic tie wraps should not abrade brake pipes. I got mine on a market and can't find a supplier here but these are the same type of thing.

Double loop cable ties look like fun. There are some on eBay too. Do you reckon they're OK for SVA? They keep the pipe held securely and keep it held away from the metalwork.

What about cable tieing the P clips if the double ties are not good enough?

I have seen something recently where the cable tie was passed both ways through a 10mm or so length of hose to "stand it off" from the fixing.

cable ties should be fine. As long as its done neatly, and no undue stress is imparted into any of the pipes, I can't see why the sva inspector should have an issue.

I know of 3 cars that have gone through SVA with fuel and loom taped to the chassis.............no really!

It has been totally taped over, wrapped to the chassis rail so you cant see any of it.

I saw one of the 3 in construction and was trying to establish where the fuel line was and it wasnt until the builder pointed it out that i could see where it was.

All 3 built by the same guy.