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Benzine

posted on 28/11/11 at 07:12 PM Reply With Quote
anti-banded steel wheels

You know when people band steel wheels to make them wider, could a similar thing be done to make them thinner to take a motorbike tyre? If so I could fit the now-narrowed steel wheels to car hubs from a small car, would be cheap and wouldn't have to work out how to fit bike wheels. I'm not sure if the lips of car and bike wheels are similar (i.e. the bit where the tyre forms the seal) Any idea if that would work?
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designer

posted on 28/11/11 at 07:20 PM Reply With Quote
Just use a narrow wheel.
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Dingz

posted on 28/11/11 at 07:22 PM Reply With Quote
How about space saver wheels?





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phelpsa

posted on 28/11/11 at 07:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
You know when people band steel wheels to make them wider, could a similar thing be done to make them thinner to take a motorbike tyre? If so I could fit the now-narrowed steel wheels to car hubs from a small car, would be cheap and wouldn't have to work out how to fit bike wheels. I'm not sure if the lips of car and bike wheels are similar (i.e. the bit where the tyre forms the seal) Any idea if that would work?


No The barrel taper.






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v8kid

posted on 28/11/11 at 07:42 PM Reply With Quote
The answer is here

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg4.html

if you can understand it!

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Cheers





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Benzine

posted on 28/11/11 at 09:55 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by designer
Just use a narrow wheel.


No car wheel I can find is thin enough T_T

quote:
Originally posted by Dingz
How about space saver wheels?


Definitely worth looking at, still a bit too wide for what I'm wanting, if the tyres for them are rated so they'll pass IVA then they could be another option. I think I might end up using wheels from a bike with a rear swing arm that takes bolts and has the same pcd as a car hub. Shame as bikes and bike parts are silly expensive


phelpsa & v8kid, thanks for that info!

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owelly

posted on 28/11/11 at 10:20 PM Reply With Quote
What size, offset and pcd are you looking for? If I have any kicking about, I don't mind whopping one in the lathe and waving the mig at it to see what occurs.





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MikeR

posted on 28/11/11 at 10:37 PM Reply With Quote
Bear in mind your tyres have to be rated to faster than your vehicle can do - this is normally based on what your speedo is rated to. Whilst bike tyres will be ok, space saver tyres more than likely won't.

Also are bike tyres designed to always have their forces pushing downwards (hence when they corner the bike rolls to the side). In a car the tyre has to resist a sideways force as the tyre is always flat. Are you sure that a bike tyre can resist that same force?

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hillbillyracer

posted on 28/11/11 at 11:15 PM Reply With Quote
I have actually done this due to the correct wheel being unavailable, all worked fine & half the welding of a banded wheel.
To be fair though it was on a David Brown!

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Benzine

posted on 29/11/11 at 11:43 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the replies!

quote:
Originally posted by owelly
What size, offset and pcd are you looking for? If I have any kicking about, I don't mind whopping one in the lathe and waving the mig at it to see what occurs.


Thanks for the offer I'm not sure yet on pcd, offset etc. It was going to be a case of go to the scrapyard and see what they have

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