chriscook
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 06:46 PM |
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Toyo R888 vs Yoko A048R
Trying to decide what tyres to get and am looking at the R888s or the A048Rs has anyone got any experience of both tyres?
Thanks,
Chris
[Edited on 10/1/06 by chriscook]
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graememk
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 06:48 PM |
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get something cheap then leave them on the roundabouts
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Guinness
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 07:08 PM |
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I'm using R888's, nice, black and round. Can't say I've even come close to the dry limit of grip yet. Can be made to unstick
quite easy in the wet though!!!
Seriously though, I suspect you'd have to be a pretty good driver to notice any real performance difference between two such similar high
performance tyres. Perhaps back to back tests on a trackday? But who could afford that?
A mate of mine has a Caterham which had a set of 10 year old Goodyears on it when he bought it. Replaced them with A032R's and completely
transformed the handling.
Both choices are very good, don't buy a cheapo set as they are your only contact point with earth.
HTH
Mike
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chriscook
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 07:42 PM |
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I am not going to put cheepo rubbish on when i've spent what i've spent in time and money building the car. Also I realise that the car
will be better than me with either of those 2 tyres.
Although I don't expect to use the car much in the rain i'd be quite interested in what they are like if i get caught out. General
concencus seems to say that the 48s are better than the older A032Rs in the wet but would like to know how the R888s compare.
Chris
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skydivepaul
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 07:54 PM |
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For road use go for the Yoko A539 @ around £40.00 a corner they are fantastic in the dry or wet. They dont have as much outright grip as the A048 or
R888 but you will never reach that limit on the road. Even on the track it will take about 10 minutes hard thrashing to get the A539's to start
overheating and going off.
They'll last loads longer too
They will also be better in the wet if you do get caught out!!
[Edited on 10/1/06 by skydivepaul]
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Monkeybasher
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 11:24 PM |
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maxsports RB5 do the job for me and road legal
http://www.ears.co.uk/motorsport/tyres/tyres_maxsport.htm
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phoenix70
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 11:54 PM |
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I second the Yoko A539, got them on my Pug and they give great grip in the dry but are pretty good in the wet too. The two tyres you are looking at
are both really road legal slicks, so neither will be any use on a wet road, you really have to make you mind up whether you will be going out in the
rain, because believe me driving a seven in the rain on those compond will be like driving on sheet ice.
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RichieC
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| posted on 11/1/06 at 08:28 AM |
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Im going for a fairly soft, road tyre like Toyo Proxes. They tend to wear fiarly quickly on a road car so with luck that will be traslated into more
grip on a 7. What you dont want is a tyre that last ages on a road car, with the lightweight of a 7 it will last forever and provdie less grip.
539 V
539 H
Toyo Proxe T1-S V
The RB5s wont suit everyone as they only come in:
185/60R13
185/60R14
185/55R15
205/55R15
205/50R16
Rgds
Rich
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bimbleuk
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| posted on 11/1/06 at 08:31 AM |
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I initially ran a set of Faulken tyres which were cheap but still quite good. I now run R888s which have much better grip and can stand the abuse much
better on track.
However the Faulkens were actually much more fun on track as they lost grip a lot earlier but were quite progressive with it! The R888 are still good
on track but your going much quicker and therfore have less time to react to any sudden lost of grip.
General consensus on the seloc forum (Elises) is that the A048Rs are marginally better in the dry. R888 better in the wet. Both have similar tread
depth and wear rates (except I believe you may be able to get softer Yoko compounds).
If you shop around you can usually get a set of R888s at a cheaper price.
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Potster
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| posted on 11/1/06 at 03:41 PM |
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What sort of price are the maxsports RB5?
How good are they? Better than A539s?
Cheers Stuart
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RichieC
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| posted on 11/1/06 at 05:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bimbleuk
I initially ran a set of Faulken tyres which were cheap but still quite good. I now run R888s which have much better grip and can stand the abuse much
better on track.
However the Faulkens were actually much more fun on track as they lost grip a lot earlier but were quite progressive with it! The R888 are still good
on track but your going much quicker and therfore have less time to react to any sudden lost of grip.
Were they ZE512 by any chance? Id agree entirely if so. I ran them on a couple of quick (all be it front wheel drive cars) and they were really
good. Soft, grippy, progressive and a good rim protection strip to save any damage by birds driving into kerbs 
They come in at about £27 a corner (195/50/15) so a bargain too.
RB5s are about £45 each with R888s at around £80.
Colway do a similar tyre (F2 I think) which is around the £38 mark and similar to the RB5 (in that its a remould) but theyre not fully road legal;
theyre only legal for road sections on rallies, fine for track days though.
Rgds
Rich
[Edited on 11/1/06 by RichieC]
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chriscook
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| posted on 11/1/06 at 06:41 PM |
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If i could afford 1 set of wheels & tyres for roa dand another for track day then i'd have 539s for the road. But at the moment I can only
go for one set and it just seems wrong to have the same tyres on my Phoenix as on my diesel engined peugeot 306!
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givemethebighammer
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| posted on 11/1/06 at 09:57 PM |
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My car is fitted with medium compound A048Rs. They have done about 2500 miles including three track days (one of them on an airfield) and the tyres
still have loads of tread left on them. The grip is superb. However it is fairly easy to unstick them in the wet (particularly in standing water). I
run them at 18psi also.
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cornishrob
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| posted on 12/1/06 at 07:08 PM |
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On something like a seven i think R888's would be fine day to day but dont get caught in the wet is the general consensus, I know a couple guys,
not kit but pointlessly tuned car owners who use them and the dry is amazing wet is also amazing but for whole other reasons.
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quadra
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| posted on 13/1/06 at 02:34 PM |
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In my opinion Yoko A539's are too hard for most sevens. These tyres are designed for normal cars and you can't compare there performance
on a medium sized car to that of a car that weighs significantly less. Even a small hot hatch weighs more than 1000kgs now days and most sevens will
weigh at least 300kgs less than that. I have A539's on my rush but I feel I made the wrong decision and if I was going to change I would look
for a softer compound tyre like an A048 or R888. I don't use my car too much in the rain, but even when I do I am much more careful even with
regular road tyres on.
Cheers Mike
[Edited on 13/1/06 by quadra]
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ecosse
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| posted on 13/1/06 at 03:04 PM |
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Have to agree with Mike's (quadra) comments, I ran the 539's on my sprint car (fiesta) a good tyre but the fiesta struggled to get them up
to temp, so I doubt a seven would either.
Also used the falk 512's which were good for the price but i'm not sure I would fit them on a seven, not enough grip! IMHO
Cheers
Alex
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RichieC
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| posted on 13/1/06 at 03:07 PM |
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Yeh, like I say I dont have any experience of tyres on such a light car, but 539s struck me as being hard wearing and consequently less grip on a 7.
Suprised you didnt like 512s, I always found them softer and with therefore more grip, but again, this wasnt in a)RWD or b) circa 500kg car.
Proxes are still my first choice I think, cant really beat em for the price.
Rgds
Rich
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Monkeybasher
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| posted on 16/1/06 at 11:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Potster
What sort of price are the maxsports RB5?
How good are they? Better than A539s?
Cheers Stuart
I am delighted with my RB5s, especially as they are around the £40 mark each. The common brand name tyres are twice the price, but dont give anywhere
near twice the performance if any improvement. If you only drive in the dry and are sticking to locost tradition then RB5s are superb. I have no
experience in the wet with them but can imagine it being dodgy. Very good value
Cheers
Steve
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