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Humbug

posted on 5/2/07 at 07:34 AM Reply With Quote
Brake problems / questions

A couple of things on brakes:

1. From time to time I notice that I get drag when accelerating and smell brake pad dust. A quick blip on the brake frees it up. When I stop and get out to look, it seems like the front right brake has clamped itself on, as it feels really hot and stinks. I had the calipers reconditioned when I built the car (Oct 2005 SVA, 2500 miles ago) so I would be pissed off if I needed to get them doen again. Any ideas on what it is and how to fix it?

2. Although the brakes work OK, the brake pedal has some slack in it, i.e. you have to press it a way before anything happens with little or no resistance. I have bled the front brakes, but it is still the same. Ideas?

Thanks

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marcjagman

posted on 5/2/07 at 08:24 AM Reply With Quote
Try taking the pads out and moving the pistons in and out, usually works. Ther slack could be either an air lock or your fluid is getting too hot, bleed them any way to be sure.
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flak monkey

posted on 5/2/07 at 08:26 AM Reply With Quote
First thing to do would be to check the pads are free in the calipers. Suprising what a small burr on the back of the pads can do. Also make sure theres a good layer of copper slip on the backs and sides of the pads and anti squeal shims, not so much it gets all over the pad though!

David





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britishtrident

posted on 5/2/07 at 08:34 AM Reply With Quote
Could be a few things give us a few details; what is your brake set up ? , how are the hydraulic circuits split ? -- what master cylinder(s) are you using ? and do you have a return spring on the pedal. ?

However fact that the brake clamps hard on points the most likely cause is the piston in the master cylinder not returning fully. Before anybody suggests (someone always does) it won't be anything to do with the flex hoses.

The excess pedal travel may be an unrelated issue, my first suspect would be that the self adjusters on the rear brakes aren't working, the most likely cause of this is that the hand brake cable is over tensioned. Try slackening the cables right back and pumping the pedal a few times.

If you have Cortina or similar design front calipers excess travel could also be due to a stuck piston in one half of caliper. Trust me on this as a long an explanation is required as to why this has this gives excess travel.

If you have proper rubber-textile flex hoses you can eliminate where the lost motion is coming from by clamping off the hoses and trying the pedal travel.

[Edited on 5/2/07 by britishtrident]

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RazMan

posted on 5/2/07 at 08:52 AM Reply With Quote
My money is on a sticky piston in the caliper - sometimes just working it in & out a few times, then bleeding the caliper can solve the problem.





Cheers,
Raz

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mark chandler

posted on 5/2/07 at 10:21 AM Reply With Quote
"2. Although the brakes work OK, the brake pedal has some slack in it, i.e. you have to press it a way before anything happens with little or no resistance. I have bled the front brakes, but it is still the same. Ideas? "

Sounds like the master cylinder piston is not returning to me and holding the brakes on. Has it got a decent spring inside it or is something fouling the rod ?

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Surrey Dave

posted on 5/2/07 at 11:51 AM Reply With Quote
i've had my calipers apart 3 times since building the car , one would sieze and drag through too little use and road grime getting in.

The last time i made sure that I had got some grease inside the rubber bellows (should be silicon grease possibly) mine isn't.

You need some mechanical slack in the whole system or it would pump up. also it's hard to get it really solid having drums on the back as they're free play will effect the pedal.

[Edited on 5/2/07 by Surrey Dave]

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