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matt.c

posted on 7/3/07 at 09:08 PM Reply With Quote
STANDARD BRAKES

Start of by asking who is using standard reconditioned sierra brake calipers front and back?

Where is the best and possible the cheapest place to get them from?

And last of all, do i really need to spend a small fortune on big brakes like willwood etc on a 7 or are the standard ones strong enough?

Thanks all

matt








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dilley

posted on 7/3/07 at 09:10 PM Reply With Quote
Ive got some hardly used front calipers going cheap...
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rusty nuts

posted on 7/3/07 at 09:15 PM Reply With Quote
Uprated mine from Cortina calipers , apart from the weight saving they are no better on the road . Benifits may? be noticed if I did a track day
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zxrlocost

posted on 7/3/07 at 09:16 PM Reply With Quote
matt the standard brakes were designed for a 1 and half ton car

they are more than enough for a 450kg one

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Hellfire

posted on 7/3/07 at 09:18 PM Reply With Quote
Standard Sierra brakes are more than upto the job of stopping a seven and best of all, they usually come attached to the donor. Of course, lighter is always better but the Sierra brakes are fine.

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oliwb

posted on 7/3/07 at 09:59 PM Reply With Quote
Sierra brakes are fine but you will have to spend some time fiddling with the leverage ratios to get the "feel" right. That IMHO is why ppl harp on about fancy brakes being better. The sierra ones will still easily lock the wheels up which after all is as much as any brake can do! Sit and make some drawings and do some maths with the pedal box and you'll be happy.....Oli.





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mistergrumpy

posted on 7/3/07 at 10:07 PM Reply With Quote
I got my front pair of Sierra calipers, discs and pads from e bay, £2.20! My rears came with a full rear end including a 3:92 diff, driveshafts, discs, hubs, carriers and calipers all for £80 delivered from a local scrappy. Just gotta keep yours eyes open. There does seem to be a few around as of late, EBay and the like, but I reckon they'll start getting snapped up soon with Summer coming.






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RazMan

posted on 8/3/07 at 12:07 AM Reply With Quote
As already said, the lever ratio is crucial and even then the foot pressure will be much higher if you don't use a servo - get down the gym to limber up those right leg muscles





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Simon

posted on 8/3/07 at 12:48 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zxrlocost
matt the standard brakes were designed for a 1 and half ton car

they are more than enough for a 450kg one


Fully loaded and towing a caracan

I've got the standard Sierra discs (front) drums (rear), and they're fine.

Will even be keeping them when I have silly power, though may get some better pads.

ATB

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Johnmor

posted on 8/3/07 at 07:19 AM Reply With Quote
Brakes

I use standard sierra brake on my viento,
Car weighs 750kg (no light weight) and the 260mm front discs and standad rear discs seem plenty able to stop the car, infact i'm very impressed with its stopping power way ahead of a normal road car.

Just need to adjust the bias bar untill your happy with the balence.

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procomp

posted on 8/3/07 at 08:51 AM Reply With Quote
Hi in the 750 kit car racing championship. Up untill 2 years ago we had to run std production brake callipers and no ally ones at all.

We were using the std sierra front +rear calippers with 0.7 master cyls and green stuff pads in the front and std apec in the rears.

At circuits like pembrey where the speeds around the last corner and down the pit straight towards a hairpin are aproaching 130 mph It was possible to brake from 130-ish mph down to 30 mph in a distance of less then a 100 yard for 20 odd laps.

The regs have now changed and we are now allowed to use non std brakes on the cars but the the braking distances have not altered. But the unspung weight has reduced.

Make of that what what ever you want but a good set of std brakes and pads that have been properly bled and using the correct size cyls will work perfectly fine. Most problems with brakes are ussually found in the desighn of the pedal box with the wrong or unsuitable pedal ratios and the wrong size cyls fitted.

cheers matt

Edit to say all the above is using a bias setup with twin cyls and not a std sierra cyl. Which if you are thinking of driving on circuit or regular trackdays is essential. Matt

[Edited on 8/3/07 by procomp]

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mad dad

posted on 8/3/07 at 03:55 PM Reply With Quote
mine came with tarox front discs, green stuff pads and braided pipes and they work really well!!






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matt.c

posted on 8/3/07 at 09:41 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers everyone, thats put my mine at rest.

Thanks again.

matt






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