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oadamo

posted on 28/4/07 at 08:30 PM Reply With Quote
need help please

hi could anyone help me. this is a pic of the rear end. the beam on the pic is the bottom of the car in front of the back wheels. and the boot floor is flat. this is going on a road car for the track. iam gonna fab some thing up at work next week but i dont really no what the best setup what do you think i should use or do.could you put up i quick drawing so i no what it looks like.
this is a mock up of the diff mounted on the rear i was thinking of mounting something on the floor in front of the diff like the pic under this one.



please help as i dont what to spend loads of time on somthing thats gonna end up s**t cus i no fek all about rear suspension setups but iam willing to learn and give it a go thanks adam






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ned

posted on 28/4/07 at 08:32 PM Reply With Quote
looks like a simple enough trailing arm setup like the one nat (nsdev) used on his old grasser and is now on his twin bec fiat grasser, check his archive.

As long as the structure is sound and the pickup points/stresses are worked out correctly and adequately braced I see no reason why it won't work.

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oadamo

posted on 28/4/07 at 08:39 PM Reply With Quote
do you think that it will go round corners ok. i was thinking of making them into a v shape to try and make it a bit stronger when you get side ways froces on them.
adam






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JoelP

posted on 28/4/07 at 09:22 PM Reply With Quote
body roll will cause camber change in equal degrees, but it will work. Double wishbones let you have more control over the wheel.

You could make a box to bolt to the bottom of the car, with the diff inside it and wishbones mounted to it. Then you just have to cut a hole and stick some springs on.

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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 28/4/07 at 09:34 PM Reply With Quote
Do a dedion setup with a panard rod or watts linkage






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froggy

posted on 29/4/07 at 09:08 AM Reply With Quote
id go de dion as well as you can fab the whole lot off the car and offer it up as one unit with the shafts at the right angle and the arms running slighly downhill at your chosen ride height,thats how i did it on my van
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MikeRJ

posted on 29/4/07 at 10:16 AM Reply With Quote
A full trailing arm is ok for FWD cars, and RWD cars where lots of suspension travel and a 'loose' back end is an advantage (e.g. grasser) but I don't think it would be the best setup for a RWD tarmac car.

A Deidon would certainly be one of the easier options, but you might consider fabricating a subframe to take a double wishbone setup.

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britishtrident

posted on 29/4/07 at 10:59 AM Reply With Quote
For reasons already stated It will oversteer something awful ---





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oadamo

posted on 29/4/07 at 11:22 AM Reply With Quote
ive just had a quick measure and i need the hub faces at 1370mm. ive had a look at the de dion and it looks just like an improvised escort mk2 axle. and looks easier to make then some things ive been looking at lol. could you chage the size of the tube cause we have no 60mm in stock at work but we have some 40mm by 4mm thick. ive just bought a new plasma aswell






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iank

posted on 29/4/07 at 11:31 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by oadamo
... ive had a look at the de dion and it looks just like an improvised escort mk2 axle. ...


Difference between a de'dion and a live axle (escort MkII) is the diff and half the driveshafts weight aren't sprung on the de'dion.





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