oadamo
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| posted on 24/5/07 at 08:42 PM |
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rwd irs
hi how long can you make the irs arms before it become unsafe. or could you just make them wider betweem mounting point to make it more stable
adam
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RichardK
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| posted on 24/5/07 at 08:48 PM |
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Think I'd be more nervous about the welds on the drive shafts after lenthening them 
May just be me though
Rich
Gallery updated 11/01/2011
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worX
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| posted on 24/5/07 at 08:53 PM |
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I take it you mean lengthening the arms as you are thinking about bringing the arms further inward and keeping the driveshafts the same length??
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oadamo
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| posted on 24/5/07 at 08:59 PM |
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iam thinking about a frame with a box in the middle. with the diff inside the box and the arms coming off the box to the hubs . but the arms would be
about 400mm long could you see a prob with this . the shafts have been cut down by 100mm cus the wheel base is 1340mm
adam
[Edited on 24/5/07 by oadamo]
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worX
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| posted on 24/5/07 at 09:07 PM |
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what you are doing is basically making the back end of most of our (seven type IRS) cars, and making it as a type of subframe to be bolted up to your
saxo.
This is the way that I would of gone about doing the back of your car anyway (but thats only because I don't know anything about de-dion
setups).
Are you wanting the arms to be 400mm long or are you wanting the upright to be 400mm away from your box???
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oadamo
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| posted on 24/5/07 at 09:11 PM |
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the arms to be 400mm long from the box to the hubs
adam
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worX
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| posted on 24/5/07 at 09:11 PM |
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scratch my last question Adam as it's no longer relevant!
You can easily have your bones at 400mm because thats what mine are!
the only point to make is the fact that mine are braced longitudally twice.
Do you want me to take a photo of them for you?
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oadamo
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| posted on 24/5/07 at 09:12 PM |
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pleaseeeeeeee
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worX
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| posted on 24/5/07 at 09:20 PM |
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I hope you are ok waiting until tomorrow as I am "very busy" at work now and will be until 6am!
If it is just because you will find it easier to make, then you don't need to wait for the pic for now, you can go about and plan your box.
I can measure the spread of the wishbone arms (the bottom of the A shape) if you want that way you can make the design/make the bottom of your box cos
you know the deciding length???
edited to add - I can measure those now for you  - pic's tomorrow
[Edited on 24/5/07 by worX]
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oadamo
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| posted on 24/5/07 at 09:24 PM |
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mate theres no rush as ive got loads to do lol so in your own time 
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worX
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| posted on 24/5/07 at 09:27 PM |
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tomorrow it is then, but if it's raining tomorrow when I have to go crawling around on the floor it'll be all your fault!!!
I am gonna measure them now mate - back in a sec!
check this out first so you can see what I'm talking about:
http://www.p4nts.co.uk/gallery/slides/sh%20(170).html
and
http://www.p4nts.co.uk/gallery/slides/sh%20(159).html
theres probably some better ones in my gallery somewhere, but they are the forst ones I found!
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worX
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| posted on 24/5/07 at 09:35 PM |
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if you can imagine the bottom bones stood up representing the letter 'A' (cos I am so bad at describing things to other people!!!) the
dimensions are:
300mm wide at base
160mm wide at top
400mm tall
please bear in mind that these are done without bothering to jack up the car and it is now dark outside, but I don't think I am far off!
I can't get to the tob bone with the wheel off, so when you get there I wil get you those Dim's aswell.
Another thing to be aware of if you are going to make wishbones for an IRS setup, is the fact that I wouldn't have them all polybushed. I would
put a rose joint in the rear lower bone end, that way you will also be able to adjust the toe in/out on the rear of your car aswell as the front - not
by much, but enough to set up your car that little bit better!
hth
Steve
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oadamo
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| posted on 24/5/07 at 09:37 PM |
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top bloke thanks ive got the idea now i can start making more things tomorrow to keep in my shed lol
adam
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worX
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| posted on 24/5/07 at 09:39 PM |
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here's a pic of the top rear bones, I didn't take a pic of the lower because I wasn't able to build them up at the same time due to
waiting an inordinate amount of time for some parts from my manufacturer!!!
http://www.p4nts.co.uk/gallery/slides/sh%20(82).html
all the best mate, if there's anything else you need to know then just drop me a U2U!
cheers,
Steve
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 24/5/07 at 11:29 PM |
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http://picasaweb.google.com/patrickjquinlan/B8ggyDr4wingz
have a look at this rear
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goodall
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| posted on 25/5/07 at 04:58 PM |
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what about this rearend link bit late now to go for that set up, but still some ideas to be had from
the description given in the video about how its done
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