SyKaTurbo
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| posted on 13/8/07 at 02:41 PM |
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Total Brake Pipe Length
How much pipe am I going to need to do the whole car. I'm running braided flexy throughout so need to get a estimate on how much i'll need
to the nearest meter.
Also need an idea of what fittings i'll need for the Sierra master cylinder, front calipers and rear drums.
Thanks
Simon
[Edited on 13/8/07 by SyKaTurbo]
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britishtrident
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| posted on 13/8/07 at 02:55 PM |
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Far easier, neater to use 3/16" Kunnifer at least between the master and the T fittings.
To avoid confusion the convention is
pipe = ridgid
hose=flexible
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SyKaTurbo
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| posted on 13/8/07 at 03:19 PM |
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I hate the look of bent copper pipe run down the chassis. I can't be bothered trying to get them straight and neat throughout.
Plus i can get the braided through work.
Thanks for clearing up the terminology.
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RazMan
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| posted on 13/8/07 at 03:38 PM |
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Braided is much easier, more resilient to knocks & scrapes too imo
Cheers,
Raz
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welderman
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| posted on 13/8/07 at 03:41 PM |
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i can get approx lengths you require if needed, just need to pop round my mates as he has just done the lines in his Indy
Thank's, Joe 
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Back on with the Fisher Fury R1
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SyKaTurbo
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| posted on 13/8/07 at 03:53 PM |
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If it's not too much trouble yes, i'd appreciate it 
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welderman
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| posted on 13/8/07 at 03:59 PM |
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will sort it before your kit comes in 3 weeks.
Thank's, Joe
I don't stalk people
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Back on with the Fisher Fury R1
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 13/8/07 at 04:46 PM |
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Braided is great for bits that need to flex, but if you use if for the whole system it will never give you as good a pedal as proper copper/kunifer
pipes would.
My dad had an MG Midget from a historic race series in his garage recently, suffering from a spongy pedal, no matter how much it was bled. He
stripped out the miles of aeroquip and fitted kunifer pipe in place of it (apart from the required flexi bits of course). After the next outing the
owner reported that brakes were transformed, nice solid confidence inspiring pedal.
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RazMan
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| posted on 13/8/07 at 05:09 PM |
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Personally I haven't found any spongyness with my braided hoses. I have got them from m/c to caliper and after bleeding they are rock hard - you
really can't tell the difference. Mine are Goodriche items if that makes any difference.
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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dnmalc
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| posted on 13/8/07 at 06:24 PM |
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I found a 10m roll of cupro nickel was just about right. I think that it was about £12 on ebay
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Alan B
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| posted on 13/8/07 at 07:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by SyKaTurbo
............ I can't be bothered trying to get them straight and neat throughout.......
I'm not sure that kind of attitude will help you build a car to be proud of...or even get it finished.....
If running brake pipes neatly is going to be too much of a task I fear you are in for a loooooong build....
Don't get me wrong I'm not Mr Super-Perfection.....but I can see you struggling to be honest....
Just my opinion....
[Edited on 13/8/07 by Alan B]
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britishtrident
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| posted on 13/8/07 at 08:06 PM |
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Getting brake straight is easy you just uncoil and swat it down on on a flat surface like work bench or a the floor.
Like wise neat bends are easy with the proper tool.
It all looks neat especially if you use proper pop-in brake pipe clips.
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SyKaTurbo
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| posted on 14/8/07 at 08:38 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
quote:
Originally posted by SyKaTurbo
............ I can't be bothered trying to get them straight and neat throughout.......
I'm not sure that kind of attitude will help you build a car to be proud of...or even get it finished.....
If running brake pipes neatly is going to be too much of a task I fear you are in for a loooooong build....
Don't get me wrong I'm not Mr Super-Perfection.....but I can see you struggling to be honest....
Just my opinion....
[Edited on 13/8/07 by Alan B]
Well maybe shutting your mouth and keeping it to youself might be an idea as you know absolutly nothing about me.
If I want to use braided as it performs as well, readily available to me and will (in my mind) look neater than copper bent all over the show then
i'll use that. Surely how I want to build my kit car is up to me.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 14/8/07 at 09:55 AM |
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No need to get stroppy. Youhave to admit that "I can't be bothered" dosen't exactly give the greatest impression.
I don't quite understand why you think you will have copper pipe all over the show? Surely it will all be routed down the transmission tunnel
so you won't actualy see it at at all unless you lift the bonnet or are working under the car?
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SyKaTurbo
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| posted on 14/8/07 at 10:59 AM |
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I'm not stroppy. I just have no tollerance for gobby knobbers! (as were all expressing our opinions)
Yet another total irrelevant post about how I wish to build MY car!
[Edited on 14/8/07 by SyKaTurbo]
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Alan B
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| posted on 14/8/07 at 11:52 AM |
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So true...you can and will build what you like....
Gobby Knobber huh?....never been called that before...LOL..people who do know me will probably laugh too....
Let's hope MR SVA man CAN be bothered to give you a pass.....
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NS Dev
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| posted on 14/8/07 at 12:04 PM |
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LOL
If you don't need advice then don't ask!!!
What Alan said is quite right, running brake lines neatly took me a couple of hours including flaring them etc. Many other bits of the build were MUCH
more frustrating!!!!!!
Ps Over the years I have built (and am building) a fairly large number of competition cars, and none of them has used braided throughout.
One reason is it makes any welding repairs a pain. You have to completely cover the pipe as spatter sticks to it and bursts it.......learnt from
experience (very fortunately just before scrutineering not on stage!!! )
[Edited on 14/8/07 by NS Dev]
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DarrenW
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| posted on 14/8/07 at 12:38 PM |
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if i had the braided gear at home then id be tempted but going the Kunifer route meant the pipes were routed where i wanted them and terminated at the
right place. i would hev been gutted if i couldnt complete the job because a hose was just too short or a bit long to be neat. There wont be that much
on show to be honest. Maybe just run the front to back lengths in copper down the tunnel and the more visible lengths in braided as an alternative
idea. Where they exit the tunnel at the back you can terminate at the T piece and then run braided to the calipers / drums (which is what i have done.
i guess the fronts can be fully braided from the MC if thats what you want to do. You will be able to lose any extra lengths easier that way.
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skydivepaul
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| posted on 14/8/07 at 12:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
So true...you can and will build what you like....
Gobby Knobber huh?....never been called that before...LOL..people who do know me will probably laugh too....
Let's hope MR SVA man CAN be bothered to give you a pass.....
gobby knobber...................very funny
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Fozzie
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| posted on 14/8/07 at 10:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by skydivepaul
quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
So true...you can and will build what you like....
Gobby Knobber huh?....never been called that before...LOL..people who do know me will probably laugh too....
Let's hope MR SVA man CAN be bothered to give you a pass.....
gobby knobber...................very funny
gobby knobber...ROFL ....
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