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Avoneer

posted on 31/3/07 at 08:01 AM Reply With Quote
Putting on braided brake ends?

Is this the correct way, or should the braiding be cut back and not overlap the olive?

Thanks,

Pat...





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Hellfire

posted on 31/3/07 at 08:11 AM Reply With Quote
The braid needs to go up the front angle of the olive only.

When connected up properly it traps the braid and squeezes the olive down (and up) to the needle tube on the connector. Our's are like this...

Steve






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andrew.carwithen

posted on 31/3/07 at 08:18 AM Reply With Quote
I know it doesn't help you, Pat but tbh I don't know. I'm going to have mine made up by a local air/hydraulics company.
You might be able to help me though.
The threaded male end in your picture - is that the caliper end or the inboard end to fit onto the copper pipe? (Just trying to establish what ends I need to connect to both)


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R1 STRIKER

posted on 31/3/07 at 08:39 AM Reply With Quote
Just another quick question. What are the rules regarding SVA and using braided brake lines through out? and do they have to be crimped on ends?

Ben.

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Hellfire

posted on 31/3/07 at 10:09 AM Reply With Quote
The one's Pat is using are now not allowed through SVA (in Beverley) they need to be crimped, or so I am lead to believe.

Regarding the braid itself - that is also not allowed (as it is) due to it's rough/abrasive nature. It's also very difficult to keep clean and shiny therefore we had some clear plastic heat shrink around our's before they were crimped. Keeping them clean and shiny and obviously to provide a smooth surface.

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SeaBass

posted on 31/3/07 at 11:32 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
The one's Pat is using are now not allowed through SVA (in Beverley) they need to be crimped, or so I am lead to believe.
Steve


You are, in all likelyhood correct about Beverley. However many other SVA test stations have and do allow these fittings to be passed with proof that an olive is present in the joint.

With regards the correct procedure for assembling the fitting I found this most useful... Couldn't find it again on the web so I've hosted it for a while. The second page is what you're after.



PDF FILE HERE

HTH






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Avoneer

posted on 31/3/07 at 02:00 PM Reply With Quote
According to the PDF, I've done it right.

Just cut the hose square.

Push the olive inside the braid and onto the inner firmly.

Tighten up the outer.

That it???

All seems to easy.

Pat...





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DavidM

posted on 31/3/07 at 02:38 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Pat,

Looks good to me. I did mine like that and it is that easy. Mine passed at Nottingham ok. I don't know why they would fail anywhere else as they have an internal support for the pipe. It's my understanding that as such they comply with the guidance issued by VOSA to its inspectors.

David

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Avoneer

posted on 31/3/07 at 08:38 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers.

Not worried about SVA after reading a previous post which quoted the manual:

"Compression joints of the type using separate ferrules are not considered
suitable for joints on hydraulic brake lines other than in the case of a hose designed for a high pressure application that incorporate an inner support sleeve in the compression fitting"

Which mine do.

Ta,

Pat...





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Avoneer

posted on 1/4/07 at 04:52 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Andy,

That's the end that bolts onto the side panel and then the copper pipe bolts onto it inside the car.

The other ends are banjo's as I'm using HiSpec 4 pots and that's all they'd take.

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