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Author: Subject: Calculating master cylinder size
ChrisGamlin

posted on 9/5/07 at 01:57 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by RazMan
The Girling & Wilwood m/c are the same fitment wise - just watch the length if space is tight (Wilwoods are slightly longer)

Your pedal ratio is about the same as mine so I suggest a few visits to the gym might be in order to strengthen up your right leg

p.s. When you mentioned that you were being outbraked by other drivers, were the brakes fading or just not enough to lock up the wheels?


The brakes aren't fading and with enough effort you can lock a (front) wheel, but there seems to be nothing in between not slowing down much and wheel locked, combined with a complete lack of feel!

Because of the symptoms I originally thought it was pad material and/or geometry and/or corner weights but friends run the RS15s to good effect, my corner weights are virtually spot on and Im only running about 1.25 degrees of camber on the fronts (A032 Yokos), so nothing out of the ordinary.






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ChrisGamlin

posted on 9/5/07 at 02:22 PM Reply With Quote
BritishTrident, does your 0.7 / 0.7 still stand for the 9" drums? Im thinking of ordering a couple of 0.7" Wilwoods from Rally Design so then I'll have my existing ones to play around with if I need a smaller rear MC.

cheers

Chris






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Peteff

posted on 9/5/07 at 02:41 PM Reply With Quote
I think the rear cylinders are same in 9" and 8", the increase comes from the greater friction area. The same cylinder seems to have been used since 1971 Consul right through to the Focus. Part no. 64677523





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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britishtrident

posted on 9/5/07 at 02:48 PM Reply With Quote
Drums of any size don't require a big bore master cylinder

0.7" was more or less the standard size when all cars had 4 wheel drum brakes. Although a few manufacturers used 0.625" on smaller models such as the Imp, Viva and Triumph Herald.

When disc were installed master cylinders went up to 0.75" and the introduction of servos saw another increase to 0.8125"





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ChrisGamlin

posted on 9/5/07 at 02:55 PM Reply With Quote
Ok cheers for all the help, I'm just ordering a pair of 0.7" Wilwood MCs from Rally Design so will let you know how I get on.

Chris






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rs-tone

posted on 31/3/08 at 12:10 AM Reply With Quote
So how did you get on ?
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MikeR

posted on 31/3/08 at 12:33 PM Reply With Quote
i'm wondering that having read this....
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ChrisGamlin

posted on 31/3/08 at 08:38 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Chaps

Sorry for not updating this before.

When I swapped to the 2 x 0.7" MCs the pedal feel improved a lot to the extent that Im now pretty satisfied with it. Its still not quite as good as a couple of Westies Ive driven but I think some of that may be suspension geometry etc, but its in the same ballpark now whereas before it wasn't.

cheers
Chris






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