webbey
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| posted on 27/10/11 at 07:25 AM |
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ABS on a Kitcar - Is it worth it?
Hi There
I am making a mev rocket style kit car and my donor ford focus has abs and traction control, I was wondering if it would be worthwhile putting it in
the kitcar?
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designer
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| posted on 27/10/11 at 08:11 AM |
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For me, No.
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franky
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| posted on 27/10/11 at 08:29 AM |
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a standard TC system no. A fully adjustable high resolution system like racelogic, yes.
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 27/10/11 at 09:01 AM |
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ABS isn't traction control as such.
And ABS, IIRC, won't pass the IVA?
EDIT - I think I lied. I'm sure I read somewhere that ABS wasn't allowed - interesting.
Adds too much weight for my liking 
[Edited on 27/10/11 by coyoteboy]
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Macbeast
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| posted on 27/10/11 at 10:02 AM |
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You only need ABS if you're not a very good driver
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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jabbahutt
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| posted on 27/10/11 at 10:05 AM |
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I better get some ABS fitted then
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britishtrident
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| posted on 27/10/11 at 12:08 PM |
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About 12 years back in a US fuel injection forum a guy who worked for one of the US "big 3" posted some interesting insight into the
effort required to setup ABS for a new model, according to him it required something like 50 times the number of man hours it took to set up the
engine management.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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snapper
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| posted on 27/10/11 at 12:50 PM |
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I have a friend and neighbour that does this for Fords, lots of ice lake testing etc.
I did ask him about abs, traction control and stability control from a donor and he said the original weight, power, gearing was all taken into
account, change any of this and the system will not work as it should.
Simple abs like the old sierra might work as it only measures wheel slip anything more software based would be in trouble.
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DixieTheKid
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| posted on 27/10/11 at 01:34 PM |
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I think ABS would take the fun and the whole concept out of having these types of car. Dont know if others will agree?
[Edited on 27/10/11 by DixieTheKid]
COS IT'S Worth IT
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rallyingden
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| posted on 27/10/11 at 01:47 PM |
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NO NO NNNNOOOOOO
Unless you make provision to turn it off when doing handbrake turns
RD
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britishtrident
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| posted on 27/10/11 at 03:34 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rallyingden
NO NO NNNNOOOOOO
Unless you make provision to turn it off when doing handbrake turns
RD
No ABS on the handbrake separate system it has to be a separate system.
Only interaction between the two is if you try driving off with the handbrake on a Bosch abs will usually flag up a wheel sensor fault once the
vehicle speed reaches 7.5 mph but fault light will clear on restart.
Most ABS systems these days are connected with Cruise Control and Traction Control but these outputs to these systems rather than inputs to the
ABS.
Very often the ABS also drives the speedometer.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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iank
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| posted on 27/10/11 at 05:49 PM |
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IIRC smart51 used to be involved with ABS design. Certainly sounds like it if you read his posts here
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=83884
I also remember it didn't used to be allowed for either SVA or IVA, but it looks like they are happy with it now.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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