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DIY Si

posted on 23/12/11 at 01:37 PM Reply With Quote
Caterham A frame spherical bearing?

Afternoon, and Merry Xmas, all.

I'm having a bit of trouble ensuring that I'm putting the Caterham based De-Dion set up together properly.

The thing bothering me at the moment is the spherical bearing that I have just found out about. Where is it meant to go? The De-Dion tube itself came with a rubber bush pressed into it's central joint, and I know the A frame is meant to have rubber bushes in the two front mounts.

So where does the spherical bearing come in? Should it be in the centre of the tube, and as such allow the tube to roll a little better about the mount? The bush that's currently there is a good fit length wise, and a spherical bearing looks like it would be far too thin to fit. I've tried searching the web, but I'm not having much joy.

Thanks all, Si.





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Minicooper

posted on 23/12/11 at 01:44 PM Reply With Quote
The spherical bearing goes in the axle where your rubber bush is now, it's an upgrade the same way you use a rose joint instead of bushes in wishbones for example. You would need some spacers to give the correct width and also I believe there are some sort of dust covers to protect the central bearing. For a road car I would stick with the rubber bush

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David

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DIY Si

posted on 23/12/11 at 01:46 PM Reply With Quote
That would explain it!

Given that I'm also using the Watt's link upgrade, would that alter your view on not using it for a road car? Does the bearing give any better/worse roll movement or resistance?





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Minicooper

posted on 23/12/11 at 01:59 PM Reply With Quote
I personally would of thought that the axle would move easier and not put large twisting stresses into the axle central housing, as your not distorting the bush in order to get suspension movement. The other end of the A frame is rubber bushed anyway so it shouldn't add to the road noise and harshness for a road car, as long as one end is rubber mounted.

Any pictures, where are you using the watts linkage?

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David

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DIY Si

posted on 23/12/11 at 02:25 PM Reply With Quote
That was pretty much my thinking. As it is I only get about 4" roll before the car starts to move about, although it is currently on it's side. With a spherical joint I would expect much more before meeting resistance.

The set up is going under my Sprite. Although if I had realised at the outset just how much I was going to have to chop it all about, I think I would've started from scratch!! The Watt's linkages are used on the Superlights to help remove bump steer. There is a bit of work to do on the car yet though. I mainly need to stiffen the boot to deal with the loads from the rear links, and fit turrets for the coil overs.




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MikeRJ

posted on 23/12/11 at 05:12 PM Reply With Quote
The bushes in the watts linkage arms also have to distort in roll and single wheel bump so I don't suppose it will make a lot of difference.
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