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zxrlocost

posted on 18/1/06 at 02:04 PM Reply With Quote
can I buy big metal drills

never really had to buy anything like it before but can I buy big drills that go in to a normal drill ie they have a smaller shaft then it turns into a big drill

something like 45mm

ta chris

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RichieC

posted on 18/1/06 at 02:05 PM Reply With Quote
Hi mate,

I think the type youre on about are known as blacksmiths drills. They dont go up much past about 20mm so that means your into hole cutters for that sort of size.

What are you cutting?

Rgds

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flak monkey

posted on 18/1/06 at 02:09 PM Reply With Quote
Buy a set of HSS tank cutters. They will cut big holes in pretty much anything.

If you want a drill around 45mm the only ones you will find are morse taper shank ones. A normal 13mm chuck would never be able to hang on to a drill that big, and its unlikey the drill (machine) itself would cope either.

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zxrlocost

posted on 18/1/06 at 02:19 PM Reply With Quote
alright rich Ive sent your bolts by the way

and Im cutting some alloy phoned the local metal place about some blacksmith drills so will sort that out if theyve got one

whats the tank cutters dave

ta chris

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DaveFJ

posted on 18/1/06 at 02:19 PM Reply With Quote
If its thick metal you are drilling then you want one of these.....

hss




they cost about a grand to buy so hiring is the way - you may need to buy the appropriate bit though....





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RichieC

posted on 18/1/06 at 02:21 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zxrlocost
alright rich Ive sent your bolts by the way

and Im cutting some alloy phoned the local metal place about some blacksmith drills so will sort that out if theyve got one

whats the tank cutters dave

ta chris

Thanks mate, tank cutters look like this.

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zxrlocost

posted on 18/1/06 at 02:27 PM Reply With Quote
so do they just fit in my drill

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RichieC

posted on 18/1/06 at 02:37 PM Reply With Quote
Yeh the arbor isnt a fat diameter. Would a hole saw not go through the alloy? What sort of thickness are we talking?

Rgds

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zxrlocost

posted on 18/1/06 at 02:51 PM Reply With Quote
1 inch thick
ta chris

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RichieC

posted on 18/1/06 at 02:53 PM Reply With Quote
Ah righty, something fairly heavy duty then

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zxrlocost

posted on 18/1/06 at 02:59 PM Reply With Quote
yep ill keep looking would like to buy a tool not rent
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britishtrident

posted on 18/1/06 at 03:11 PM Reply With Quote
You might manage 1" thick 45mm dia with bi-metal hole saw -- if you keep well cooled and the speed right down.

[Edited on 18/1/06 by britishtrident]

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David Jenkins

posted on 18/1/06 at 03:13 PM Reply With Quote
I have a few blacksmith's drills in 3/4" & 1" - they're very hard to use in a hand-held domestic electric drill, and put a huge load on the drill. You would probably have to work your way up to the final size in increments.

BTW: 'blacksmith's drill' is a good description - they're crude and not particularly accurate.

Do a Google on Tracy Tools for a cheap source via mail order (but don't use your credit card, 'cos they charge you a bundle). Send an order with a cheque and you'll get your drill(s) back by return post - they're very good at that.

David






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zxrlocost

posted on 18/1/06 at 03:24 PM Reply With Quote
ok ta
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posted on 18/1/06 at 03:43 PM Reply With Quote
I have a few large drill bits whose ends I had reduced to 10mm in a lathe. It´s the cheapest way to go, I think.
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02GF74

posted on 18/1/06 at 03:43 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
I have a few blacksmith's drills in 3/4" & 1" - they're very hard to use in a hand-held domestic electric drill, and put a huge load on the drill. You would probably have to work your way up to the final size in increments.




yep ^^^^ wot he said. you need to use them at slow speed and the can jam quite easily possibly breaking your wrist (ask me how I discorverd that).

It is far saver to use a stepped cone drill - but think you are struggling to get to 45 mm.; but those are for panels really so no use for you I guess.

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andyd

posted on 18/1/06 at 04:13 PM Reply With Quote
Chris, what about getting a quote from the "water jet" guy mentioned in this thread?





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zxrlocost

posted on 18/1/06 at 04:27 PM Reply With Quote
ill find out cheers mate
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nick205

posted on 18/1/06 at 04:34 PM Reply With Quote
coming from another angle....what is it your trying to make?

is there another way to achieve what you need?

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flak monkey

posted on 18/1/06 at 04:54 PM Reply With Quote
Ok, if its an inch thick, a tank cutter is no good..

These are though:



Available in 44mm (closest you will get) from RS item number 315-5951 and are £8.60 each, not supplied with guide drill/arbor though.

Arbor to suit is item 315-5872 and is £11.55

David

[Edited on 18/1/06 by flak monkey]

[Edited on 18/1/06 by flak monkey]





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gazza285

posted on 18/1/06 at 05:18 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DaveFJ
If its thick metal you are drilling then you want one of these.....



they cost about a grand



Where the hell you buying them? Harrods?





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gazza285

posted on 18/1/06 at 05:20 PM Reply With Quote
If you fancy a day out in Yorkshire I have a Rotabroach. I think the biggest bit I've got is 43mm though.





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k33ts

posted on 18/1/06 at 05:21 PM Reply With Quote
i use similar to what flat monkey suggests on steel car panels should do ally ok wont be fast though

i paid more like £30-£40 for steel cutting blade

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ayoungman

posted on 18/1/06 at 05:23 PM Reply With Quote
If its 1inch thick alloy, a decent tank cutter will cope. Use PARAFIN to lubricate/cool it as it cuts. This will help to stop it clogging the cutting edges. DO NOT ATTEMPT IT unless you put it in a pillar drill and clamp the work piece !





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trikerneil

posted on 18/1/06 at 05:29 PM Reply With Quote
Hole saw, drill from both sides, nice and slow using paraffin as coolant.





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