COREdevelopments
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 10:06 AM |
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WILWOOD calipers @ GTS
hello
i need a set of calipers for the front, im using sierra hubs, i saw that darren is selling wilwood sets on ebay for £200, these are the solid type
disks though. i wanted vented but is there any downsides to using vented or solid? which ones would be the best option,
I know many people would say use the originals but i like the look of the wilwoods
Rob
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 10:11 AM |
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I'm very reluctantly posting this as I don't want any lash backs. Its just simple fact. I think if you check first, he may have them for a
buy it now price of £200 but he will then add VAT on after the sale.
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COREdevelopments
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 10:14 AM |
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thought as much!!! thanks for letting me know.
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Mal
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 10:31 AM |
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Caliper Prices
Compare the price with those of Rally Design.
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UncleFista
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 11:00 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mistergrumpy
I'm very reluctantly posting this as I don't want any lash backs. Its just simple fact. I think if you check first, he may have them for a
buy it now price of £200 but he will then add VAT on after the sale.
Hmmm, that's not on. If you sell (mainly) to the public, your prices must include VAT.
Not my rule...
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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RazMan
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 11:01 AM |
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Vented discs are heavier but will offer better protection against fade, although would that be a problem on a lightweight car like yours?
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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richard thomas
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 11:19 AM |
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I have vents on mine and am considering switching to solids - vents just won't warm up enough on the road due to the light weight of the car.
Plus there is an unsprung weight saving advantage.
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the_fbi
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 11:21 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by COREdevelopments
thought as much!!! thanks for letting me know.
The VAT element is CLEARLY noted on the auctions though, so not exactly a suprise.
As mentioned previously, vented are a LOT heavier and not necessary for a lightweight car.
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bodger
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 11:32 AM |
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I'm having a bit of a dilemma about this at the moment as well. I've got a pair of new vented discs & pads - cheap ones though. So I
can either spend £70 on reconditioned sierra calipers & have cheap but not very optimum front end. OR I can get a set of wilwoods but it's
going to cost £310 (Thats Rally Designs price for the cross drilled + pads + VAT). I'm leaning towards the cheaper option but I'm worried
that they wont warm up enough & I'll have crappy brakes & end up buying the wilwoods after all.
How bad is bad when talking about cold brakes in vented discs?
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RazMan
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 11:45 AM |
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Even standard brakes will be more than enough on a lightweight car - remember they were designed for stopping the equivalent of two or three
Sevens!
The Wilwoods look nice but they will not really stop you much quicker unless you are building a race car, in which case you might benefit from the
extra pad area.
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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andyps
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 11:51 AM |
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One aspect which I suspect makes a difference is that there should be plenty of air getting to the discs in a seven due to the open wheel design. In a
closed body car the vented discs are probably much more important. I don't speak from experience but would think that good quality solid discs
(particularly drilled and grooved type) would be more than enough for road use and occasional track day driving with a seven.
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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iank
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 12:16 PM |
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A seven weighs around the same as a Mini Se7en racer. The best brakes they are allowed to use are 7.5" mini cooper S iron twin pots with drums
on the rear.
They are not noted for being lethally dangerous under braking so I would suggest that for the road even standard sierra brakes are well in excess of
what you need to stop (they were after all designed to stop 2 tonnes (at least, if you are fully loaded and have a trailer) in a safe distance at
motorway speeds.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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blueshift
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 01:20 PM |
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I think adding VAT after the fact is against eBay's AUP but I could be wrong, it's a while since I read it.
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procomp
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 01:40 PM |
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Hi this maybe off interest if you feel like joining the club. BEC owners club
Cheers matt
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UncleFista
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 03:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blueshift
I think adding VAT after the fact is against eBay's AUP but I could be wrong, it's a while since I read it.
It is, it's also against advertising rules.
If you're advert isn't aimed at wholesalers and is aimed at consumers, you MUST quote prices inclusive of VAT, you're allowed to
quote prices with both VAT and without, but the inclusive price must be given "greater prominence".
I'll just have a site-search and find out where CalvinX recommended we report "dodgy" advertising practices 
Edited to add; I'm joking about reporting 'em, notice the smiley, just thought I'd better point that out for the hard-of-thinking
[Edited on 14/3/07 by UncleFista]
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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COREdevelopments
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 08:12 PM |
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well i think if it is against ebay rules he should sort it out. and thanks for all the info guys i really appreciate it.
thanks
rob
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 10:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by the_fbi
quote:
Originally posted by COREdevelopments
thought as much!!! thanks for letting me know.
The VAT element is CLEARLY noted on the auctions though, so not exactly a suprise.
The auctions end with summat like 'visit my online store, the worlds finest supplier, all prices exclude VAT.' Which to me refers to the
online site. You cannot offer a buy it now price and then up the price later for any reason. I'm not after an argument on this anyhow cos I know
where these things go. It was just to make CORE Developments aware.
[Edited on 14/3/07 by mistergrumpy]
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MikeR
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 10:57 PM |
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and i'm glad i've read this, i've seen the GTS ebay site in passing and noted the price of the calipers. I hadn't realised
that they didn't include VAT. I'd made the assumption that the buy it now price was what you paid plus postage. Good to know.
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 10:59 PM |
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Glad to help mate. Thats all I was trying to do.
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MikeR
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 11:50 PM |
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curiosity - don't you just love it.
Read ebays terms and had a proper look at darrens advert.
There is nothing wrong with it. Ebay says you must state if VAT is to be added. Darren does. I'd prefer him to state it a bit higher up the
description. But its his choice where he writes that.
Advertising Standards Agency is another matter. If the bulk of your customers are consumer then you must state "inc VAT" prices and they
must have at least the same prominence as "ex VAT". But i can't see ASA being bothered going after Darren, he's small fry and
there are undoubtedly thousands of other companies doing the same.
Of couse the real issue is .... it still seems a good deal to me 
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 11:55 PM |
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Hey, and thats all that matters.If its still a good deal then crack on. I can't justify he cost myself but they're a lovely looking bit of
kit eh? Just thought I'd make you's aware though.
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UncleFista
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| posted on 15/3/07 at 02:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
and i'm glad i've read this, i've seen the GTS ebay site in passing and noted the price of the calipers. I hadn't realised
that they didn't include VAT. I'd made the assumption that the buy it now price was what you paid plus postage. Good to know.
But in all seriousness, if you're shelling out a couple of hundred notes, would you buy from an ebayer with that feedback ?
I don't touch any ebayer with less than 95%, preferably 98%....
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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MikeR
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| posted on 15/3/07 at 08:02 PM |
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Its strange but i don't see it as buying of a unknown ebayer! Its buying off darren.
I can't at the moment justify the cost - but i'm tempted. I'd also probably go direct. For some reason that makes me feel i've
got more recourse if things don't work out (using a credit card as well).
If i really was to spend the money i'll also hunt round the other suppliers to see what the could do.
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cossiebri
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| posted on 15/3/07 at 08:28 PM |
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I got mine off ebay >>>>
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Matt-Lewis-Racing_W0QQssPageNameZstrkQ3amefsQ3amesstQQtZkm
Quick delivery reasonable prices
If it doesn't fit MODIFY it!!
Cheers BriF
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