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Author: Subject: brake proportioning valve , which one ?
nige

posted on 14/8/07 at 02:37 PM Reply With Quote
brake proportioning valve , which one ?

ive done a search and read about the fiat punto valve
£28.84 + vat at local factors

question is are the adjustable one,s on flea bay sva freindly

anyone with other ideas or opinions welcome





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nick205

posted on 14/8/07 at 02:54 PM Reply With Quote
My Fiat Uno valve cost £5 from the scrappy and was removed within 10 mins in perfect working order. You will need to make a mounting bracket with a nut and bolt adjuster to allow you to set the limit of travel on the valve.

Even though I mounted this in the engine bay I still failed SVA as it was deemed adjustable (although not from the drivers seat). The examiner allowed me to check the brake balance on the rollers during the first test, but I had to tack weld my adjustment nut/bolt to get it through the re-test.

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britishtrident

posted on 14/8/07 at 03:09 PM Reply With Quote
Brakes International http://www.brakeparts.co.uk/

Uno valve HRV1013 £15.50 + vat + p&P

Fiat Strada/Ritmo or Lada Riva one is even cheaper.

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DaveFJ

posted on 14/8/07 at 03:20 PM Reply With Quote
I got mine from scrappy - but got the Uno mounting bracket with it... easily adapted to mount in the car and added a bracket for an adjuster bolt....

TBH at the price Brakes int are asking I think i would go for a new part now though!





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mackei23b

posted on 14/8/07 at 03:39 PM Reply With Quote
I got a wilwood, £25 from the states including shipping!
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Avoneer

posted on 14/8/07 at 04:53 PM Reply With Quote
A lot of 7's don't actually need them - honest!

What brakes are you using?

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locoboy

posted on 14/8/07 at 05:23 PM Reply With Quote
I agree with Pat,

I had good brake balance at SVA and disks all round using standard sierra MC with no valve.





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Avoneer

posted on 14/8/07 at 10:23 PM Reply With Quote
I've got Hi-Spec 4 pots on the front and standard Escort 8" drums on the back.

Certainly didn't need one.

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nige

posted on 15/8/07 at 07:08 AM Reply With Quote
brakes

im using stock sierra up front with sierra m/c
and cortina live on drums at the rear

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NS Dev

posted on 15/8/07 at 09:20 AM Reply With Quote
...........and avoid the wilwood!!!

They don't work, we had to bin the one off the race caterham last weekend and replace it with an aP one which did work





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Peteff

posted on 15/8/07 at 11:38 AM Reply With Quote
I have Cortina front and Capri drum rear and was told at SVA the balance was perfect. Capri, Cortina, Escort and Sierra use similar rear cylinders so I would try without one.





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nige

posted on 15/8/07 at 02:01 PM Reply With Quote
brakes

thanks for all the comments
i will get a second hand one just in case
and run without





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britishtrident

posted on 15/8/07 at 07:11 PM Reply With Quote
One part not to buy second hand under any circumstances --- for reasons I won't go into on tintops it is not uncommon to find they jam full on.





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nige

posted on 16/8/07 at 08:11 AM Reply With Quote
brakes

point taken





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MikeRJ

posted on 17/8/07 at 07:30 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
One part not to buy second hand under any circumstances --- for reasons I won't go into on tintops it is not uncommon to find they jam full on.


Makes for interesting stopping in the wet when they do! The compensator on one of my mini's jammed, and the car swapped ends in what felt like nano-seconds.

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Mark Allanson

posted on 17/8/07 at 08:02 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
I have Cortina front and Capri drum rear and was told at SVA the balance was perfect. Capri, Cortina, Escort and Sierra use similar rear cylinders so I would try without one.


Pete,

Thats my setup too, I have a Uno valve in position, but it is in the 'off' position. You really dont need one.





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britishtrident

posted on 18/8/07 at 01:42 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
One part not to buy second hand under any circumstances --- for reasons I won't go into on tintops it is not uncommon to find they jam full on.


Makes for interesting stopping in the wet when they do! The compensator on one of my mini's jammed, and the car swapped ends in what felt like nano-seconds.


Its happened to me twice once with a Chrysler 180 (ugh!) and the second time with FWD Chrysler Alpine --- both times the cars swapped ends in the blink of an eye at less than 30 mph.

Both models were grossly over braked at the rear, in the case of the 180 it was a new valve that although fitted exactly as per WSM instructions was set a mile out. On the Alpine the valve was seized full on.





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nige

posted on 19/8/07 at 06:18 AM Reply With Quote
bloody hell

chrysler 180
alpine
there,s a blast from the past





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britishtrident

posted on 19/8/07 at 10:17 AM Reply With Quote
180s were bog awful -- started out as a good design but Chrysler US stepped in a snatched the design from the Rootes end and handed it to Simca to produce develop. Things got even worse when they switched production to Spain.

The french made such a mess of the 180 the Alpine project was award to the old Rootes office, where Roy Axe gave it its clean lines and decent interior.
Alpines wouldn't have been bad if Chrysler hadn't been getting ready to pull out and cut corners everywhere --- all it needed was a decent engine, british or german rather than french electrics and lots of rust protection.

Like the Lancia Beta and Fiat Ritmo/Strada, NSU RO80, Rover SD1, Fiat 128 it was voted European Car of the Year --- the true mark of a rust bucket.





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