sgraber
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| posted on 3/10/07 at 06:50 PM |
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Geared Steering Quickeners
Anyone had experience with inline steering quickeners?
http://www.stockcarproducts.com/steer4.htm
2:1 ratio
at $160 it seems like an inexpensive way to alter my slow rack ratio.
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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NeilP
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| posted on 3/10/07 at 07:39 PM |
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2:1 seems a little abrupt - What's your ratio at the moment? If you get too low and then burp whilst driving the twitch on the wheel could put
you in the next state?....
Edit to say: p.s. Lovely car...
[Edited on 3/10/2007 by NeilP]
If you pay peanuts...
Mentale, yar? Yar, mentale!
Drive it like you stole it!
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sgraber
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| posted on 3/10/07 at 07:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NeilP
2:1 seems a little abrupt - What's your ratio at the moment? If you get too low and then burp whilst driving the twitch on the wheel could put
you in the next state?....
Edit to say: p.s. Lovely car...
[Edited on 3/10/2007 by NeilP]
Thank you. Right now it feels like I am steering an oil tanker... Honestly can't recall the actual ratio ottomh (off the top of my head).
Quaife do make a new rack and pinion gear set for my housing that will provide a 1.5:1 increase in ratio. 2.5 turns lock to lock. I have the same rack
as the Toyota AE86.
http://www.quaifeamerica.com/suspension/suspension.htm
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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sgraber
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| posted on 3/10/07 at 08:00 PM |
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Specs for 85 Toyota MR2 -
Steering type ......................... rack & pinion
Overall ratio ....................... 18.0:1
Turns, lock-to-lock ................. 3.1
Should I consider the 1.5:1 ratio as a more logical option than 2:1?
Any personal experiences?
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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mark chandler
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| posted on 3/10/07 at 09:52 PM |
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Why not measure up PAS rack from a later MR2, they use an electric pump so no hard work involved with piping etc.
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RazMan
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| posted on 3/10/07 at 10:05 PM |
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Steve, Personally I found a 2.4 turn rack a little too quick for me and changed it for a 2.9 which suits me better as my car is used primarily on the
road. The difference is subtle but noticeable and I found bumpy lanes much easier to stay on my chosen lines.
Sounds like you prefer the quicker racks though, like another guy on here (Nitram I think) who has chosen a 1 turn rack for his project 
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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sgraber
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| posted on 3/10/07 at 10:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
Why not measure up PAS rack from a later MR2, they use an electric pump so no hard work involved with piping etc.
Good question. I think the MKII MR2 PS unit does have a slightly quicker rack (although I am not exactly sure what the difference is) than the MKI and
the PS can be blocked off since I do not need it at all. But I don't really relish the idea of re-doing the rack mounts since my bump steer is
perfect atm.
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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sgraber
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| posted on 3/10/07 at 10:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
Steve, Personally I found a 2.4 turn rack a little too quick for me and changed it for a 2.9 which suits me better as my car is used primarily on the
road. The difference is subtle but noticeable and I found bumpy lanes much easier to stay on my chosen lines.
Sounds like you prefer the quicker racks though, like another guy on here (Nitram I think) who has chosen a 1 turn rack for his project
Oh no! a 1 turn rack will not do it for me! I do want a quick rack. However sneezing or looking at the mirrors should not cause me to leave the
roadway! LOL
Exactly how much quicker I prefer I don't know, since the only experience I have is with sedan and production car racks. So a 2.9:1 eh? What is
that out of?
Maybe the first thing I should do is get stiffer bushings for the rack. Then the turn-in will be crisper.
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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RazMan
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| posted on 3/10/07 at 11:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sgraber
So a 2.9:1 eh? What is that out of?
Bog standard Escort Mk2 but there must be a few others which would do the job equally as well for you.
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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jimgiblett
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 09:37 AM |
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Another option maybe to shorten the steering arms on the front uprights. This is the preferred method on old Alfas.
Are yours part of the casting or bolt on?
- Jim
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Vindi_andy
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 03:54 PM |
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for 2.5 lock to lock there is always a sierra power rack with PAS blocked off
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sgraber
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 05:10 PM |
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They are CAST dammit... So no joy there.
I am going to be using a very nice aftermarket steel upright/hub on my future cars (Desico Design), but would like to get this one working properly
with the MR2 rack and uprights.
If I choose another rack it will have to be dimensionally identical to the MR2 unit currently in the car. My bumpsteer is 0 over the entire range and
I like it that way. Easiest way to do that is to change the innards of the rack or a quickener inline to the column.
Anyone ever used those quickeners I show up above? I saw one being used on 'Monster Garage' when they turned a Chevy S10 into a Hill-climb
for Pikes Peak.
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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