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Author: Subject: drilling brake T's - have i done something stupid?
MikeR

posted on 3/4/08 at 07:53 PM Reply With Quote
drilling brake T's - have i done something stupid?

For five minutes this seemed a good idea. Then when i'd done it i'm sure i've been stupid.

Brake T peice. the hole for fastening to the car is imperial. About 7.25mm. Bugger it i think, i'll just drill it out to 8mm. So i do.

Now i'm thinking i've enlarged the hole and therefore taken brass away from the actual bit that stops the brake fluid going everywhere.

Doing my best to guestimate i think there is still 2.5mm of brass between the brake fluid and the mounting hole.

It will be ok, won't it? (cause it if will, i'll be doing the other one tomorrow night. Also just realised i can measure the thickness accurately tomorrow as well).

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ChrisGamlin

posted on 3/4/08 at 07:58 PM Reply With Quote
Probably fine but is it worth the risk, just find an imperial bolt or just use a 6mm bolt (and a washer if necessary), more than man enough to hold something like that in position.






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blakep82

posted on 3/4/08 at 07:58 PM Reply With Quote
i personally wouldn't have, but i guess it should be fine.

ie, whats the wall thickness of copper brake pipe?

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r1_pete

posted on 3/4/08 at 08:32 PM Reply With Quote
The metal round the fluid path is now 0.375mm thinner, these castings are quite meaty, I don't think you'll have a problem. The fluid drillings are only small, I doubt you are anywhere close to break through.






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andyd

posted on 3/4/08 at 11:40 PM Reply With Quote
How much are they? If not much then just cut it up and see how much material there is left then you'll know for next time.

I must say they've always struck me as being quite over-engineered so I'd reckon you'll be ok.

Also another thought just struck me... fit some temp pipe/tubing and pressure test in some water? If you see bubbles then it'll leak fluid? Or is that just me talking balls at twenty to one in the morning?





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Mr Whippy

posted on 4/4/08 at 07:59 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by andyd

Also another thought just struck me... fit some temp pipe/tubing and pressure test in some water? If you see bubbles then it'll leak fluid? Or is that just me talking balls at twenty to one in the morning?


pressure test? arn't brakes working a 1000's of psi?






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02GF74

posted on 4/4/08 at 08:04 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeR

Doing my best to guestimate i think there is still 2.5mm of brass between the brake fluid and the mounting hole.




copper brake pipe is 3/16 in or 4.7 mm.

Assuming a 1 mm hole and I think it is bigger than that, there cannot be more than 1.88 mm of metal either side of the hole.

But what I don't know is how copper compares to brass under pressure.

Don't worry about it as long as your brake fluid lamp works!






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MikeR

posted on 4/4/08 at 08:17 PM Reply With Quote
recon after measuring tonight i've got 2mm of brass.

I think i'll be ok. might do the other one now!

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foes

posted on 4/4/08 at 11:15 PM Reply With Quote
yep i'm sure 2mm wall thickness is more than enough but why drill it out in the first place..? its not taking any load so a smaller bolt would of been fine....
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MikeR

posted on 5/4/08 at 12:17 AM Reply With Quote
yeah it would have been fine - but with the 8mm bolt in an 8mm hole it just locates it that much nicer.
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rusty nuts

posted on 5/4/08 at 08:14 AM Reply With Quote
Whats wrong with a 7mm bolt?
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MikeRJ

posted on 5/4/08 at 05:00 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by rusty nuts
Whats wrong with a 7mm bolt?


Nothing apart from availability of nuts and bolts and taps etc. compared to 8mm.

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