scootz
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 10:25 PM |
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Calling Tyre Repair Experts... !
Would you have any concerns running a 450bhp lightweight on nearly new tyres that have had a puncture repair???
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worX
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 10:52 PM |
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A repair in that area would almost certainly never just "Let Go" so you could run it with any horsepower as long as you kept your eye on
it.
Having said that, why don't you just replace it? That way you will never be wondering about that rear corner letting go...
Steve
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eccsmk
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 10:57 PM |
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it "should" be fine
i had one in a similar place on a car tyre bug with alot less horsepower on tap
HTH
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adithorp
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 11:05 PM |
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Depends on the speed rating but I'd assume not. If they're above H then only the centre 80% with standard patch's.
adrian
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 05:59 AM |
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Proximity to edge would make it specialist repair only depending on angle of penetration. IF repairable at specialist, then cost would have to be
weighed against cost of new tyre and how comfortable you would feel about it.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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nitram38
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 06:55 AM |
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I had a puncture repair there on my tintop (previa) cost £18 with the balacing etc.
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scootz
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 08:20 AM |
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What if I told you that the tyres had 7mm left and the cost to replace both with shiny new ones is over £500 
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 08:29 AM |
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quote:
What if I told you that the tyres had 7mm left and the cost to replace both with shiny new ones is over £500
GULP
Well if the tyre place say's it's OK then stick with it. At least you know it's there so you can keep an eye on it. How many of us
have driven on tyres with objects in them and never known?? Untill they let go. I'd go with whatevere the tyre repair places tells you.
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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adithorp
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 08:32 AM |
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If it was mine and I was repairing it, I'd do the first one but not the second. If I had to let someone I didn't know do it then
neither.
Seek out a specialist tyre repairer (not just KwikShit) and see what they say. £500 or risk yours and everybody else around you's lives?
adrian
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Davey D
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 08:44 AM |
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Ive had 2 tyres let go on me that have been repaired like that with a little mushroom plug. Both were on my diesel pug106, which is a very slow
underpowered car.
One tyre started to bulge where the repair was, and one went bang and fully deflated whilst driving on the motorway luckily it was a back tyre, and
not a front one
i have vowed to myself that in future i will always just buy a new tyre instead, but my tyres were a lot cheaper than £500
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scootz
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 09:02 AM |
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Cheers!
Some food for thought there!
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mr henderson
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 09:50 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
What if I told you that the tyres had 7mm left and the cost to replace both with shiny new ones is over £500
I would say that although £500 was a lot to the rest of us, to a man of your very obvious means that £500 was what our American friends refer to as
'chump change'
John
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DRC INDY 7
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 09:55 AM |
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if the repair is done correctly then there is no problem trouble is there are 2 many people in the trade that think they know what they are doing
when they know nowt
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scootz
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 10:05 AM |
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No - not chump money to me... it's a bloody lot! Hence the reason I'm debating going down this route! Unfortunately, 315 section tyres
don't come cheap, so you HAVE to pay what they cost.
PS - It might surprise you how prudent I've been with my build costs on the Ultima. It's being built to a definite budget - hence the
reason it's taking so long to complete!
If I was indeed 'man of very obvious means' then it would have been finished a long time ago, and I wouldn't be farting about with
second hand engines, repairing OEM manifolds and discussing plugging tyres!
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mr henderson
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 10:22 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
If I was indeed 'man of very obvious means' then it would have been finished a long time ago, and I wouldn't be farting about with
second hand engines, repairing OEM manifolds and discussing plugging tyres!
I'll consider myself soundly b0ll0cked
John
[Edited on 19/7/08 by mr henderson]
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C10CoryM
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 05:50 PM |
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For tires rated to 130mph, you are typically allowed to repair one puncture per tire w/o affecting the rating if:
Hole is less than 6mm
Hole is between the outside grooves (yours are not).
You use a plug and patch system (combi patch)
Tires above 130mph, no repairs permitted while retaining the speed rating.
While you could safely patch those holes for normal street use w/o any worrys, I would not use them for high speed events. Certainly not a track
day. If in doubt, email the tire manuf for repair info.
Cheers.
Cory
[edit] btw, this would be a good chance to buy some track wheels/tires and just run the damaged ones on the street 
[Edited on 19/7/08 by C10CoryM]
"Our watchword evermore shall be: The Maple Leaf Forever!"
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britishtrident
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 06:14 PM |
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(1) Both holes are on the tread area of the tyre
(2) The tyres are steel belted radials.
This type of puncture would normally be repaired by vucanising a plain patch on the inside of the casing.
During repair UK law demands the tyre be visually examined internally and externally for damage and any debris clean out from the casing.
Mushroom type repairs are not suitable on steel belted tyres because to insert them damages the steel belts and in any event the edges of steel belt
would cut through the stalk part of the plug.
Having said all that with the ammount of power you have using tyres that you could have any possible doubt about is silly.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 06:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Davey D
Ive had 2 tyres let go on me that have been repaired like that with a little mushroom plug. Both were on my diesel pug106, which is a very slow
underpowered car.
One tyre started to bulge where the repair was, and one went bang and fully deflated whilst driving on the motorway luckily it was a back tyre, and
not a front one
i have vowed to myself that in future i will always just buy a new tyre instead, but my tyres were a lot cheaper than £500
Mushroom type repairs are not suitable on steel belted radial tyres because to insert them damages the steel belts and in any event in use the edges
of steel belt would cut through the stalk part of the plug.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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JamJah
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 03:22 AM |
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10 rons for a full set of tyres inc spare. my!
This is personal advise or personal opinion.
Constructive comments gratefully recieved, picking is left for noses.
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jamie1107
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| posted on 27/7/08 at 12:45 PM |
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with that much power tyres can rotate on the bead of the wheel rim sometimes the inside and outside beads do not rotate at the same rate thus twisting
the tyre hence why drag racing cars sandwich their tyres between two beads which could dammage the securing pad of the plug
im my experiance i would have refused to repair that puncture because it is not in the central portion of the tyre although i must admit if it was my
own car i would plug it and fill the tyre with the puncture repair gue you can buy from halfrauds just in case
That way if it goes which as people have rightly said they seldom do it will go down slowly a blow out is not a pleasnt thing
i cant remeber the exact reason for only repairing the canter section 75% of the tyre width but that advise came from the dunlop training rep when i
did my apprentaship
i know the tyre is going to be silly money but if you write off the car for a 500 quid tyre you are going to be even more pissed off
besides im sure somone will give you stupid money for the repaired one on good old ebay
[Edited on 27/7/08 by jamie1107]
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