smart51
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| posted on 14/7/25 at 07:16 PM |
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MSVA for older vehicles
I've just been looking at the MSVA page: https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/motorcycle-single-vehicle-approval
It says MSVA is for radically altered vehicles, but also for vehicles under 10 years old. So what do you do if you radically alter a vehicle over 10
years old?
[Edited on 14-7-2025 by smart51]
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shindha
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| posted on 15/7/25 at 05:48 AM |
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It's exempt I believe see here
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smart51
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| posted on 15/7/25 at 07:33 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by shindha
It's exempt I believe see here
That's great, thanks!
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Sarah
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| posted on 15/7/25 at 06:23 PM |
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That was my understanding too (I think I may have brought his up a few years ago?)
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scudderfish
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| posted on 15/7/25 at 07:27 PM |
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So if you modify a car older than 10 years it doesn't need an IVA?
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gremlin1234
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| posted on 16/7/25 at 09:40 AM |
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my take is:
if you substantially modify a car / bike it becomes an unregistered vehicle, and requires testing before it can be reregisted.
and that the 10 year rule is for imported production vehicles,
ie Mazda Bongo from Japan.
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smart51
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| posted on 16/7/25 at 10:30 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by gremlin1234
my take is:
if you substantially modify a car / bike it becomes an unregistered vehicle, and requires testing before it can be reregisted.
and that the 10 year rule is for imported production vehicles,
ie Mazda Bongo from Japan.
The page linked to above says:
Exemptions from vehicle approval
You do not need vehicle approval for:
cars and minibuses with 8 passenger seats or less (not including the driver) over 10 years old
and only later says:
If you’re importing a vehicle
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Sarah
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| posted on 16/7/25 at 12:18 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by smart51
The page linked to above says:
Exemptions from vehicle approval
You do not need vehicle approval for:
cars and minibuses with 8 passenger seats or less (not including the driver) over 10 years old
and only later says:
If you’re importing a vehicle
Exactly this, but to clarify the Importing a vehicle bit is a heading for things needing to be done and is separate and distinct from modified 10 year
old cars
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russbost
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| posted on 16/7/25 at 06:09 PM |
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Exemptions from vehicle approval
You do not need vehicle approval for:
cars and minibuses with 8 passenger seats or less (not including the driver) over 10 years old
99.99% sure this does NOT apply to anything which you radically alter - say you had a golf buggy which you wanted to make road legal, or even a race
car, as long as you can prove it's over 10 years old, not been registered previously in UK & you DON'T radically alter it in getting it
to comply with road/MoT regs then you don't need IVA, but I'm sure if you radically alter ANY vehicle, whatever the age then it would
(legally) require IVA
The hot rod guys get around this all the time with cars that have "old" chassis - except they are actually anything but - it all depends on
how close to the wind you want to sail & what's gonna happen when the sticky brown stuff hits the fan in an accident & a knowledgeable
plod (not too many of them) gets involved
I would be really happy if someone could prove me wrong on this, but just think about all the vehicles DVLA have taken & crushed because they are
incorrectly registered - loads of those are well over 10 years old, I'm talking about 7's registered as Vivas or Escorts or whatever - try
& claim that it's over 10 years old so doesn't need IVA & you'd be up a creek without a paddle
I do think their site is poorly worded & misleading tho'
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