dozracing
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| posted on 20/5/04 at 09:42 PM |
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I kinda found it funny that Hellfire makes a comment like that in this section of the forum, of course he is totally unbiased as well.
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Peteff
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| posted on 20/5/04 at 10:41 PM |
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Are we in the MK section or the GTS? Can I place an advert in here for anyone else while we're at it? Luego do kits and MAC1 and there's a
little firm called westham or caterfield or something while you're looking. There's Dax, Tiger and locopops or something like that.
Anybody want to chip in with a few more? Oh yes, don't forget Fisher, they've done a couple of cars.
[Edited on 20/5/04 by Peteff]
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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M@Triton
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| posted on 20/5/04 at 10:50 PM |
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Who knows the secret of the black magic box?????????????
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M@Triton
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| posted on 20/5/04 at 10:51 PM |
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There yer go again ............talking proper pants boy best i stay outa the pub
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Wadders
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| posted on 20/5/04 at 11:20 PM |
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Don't forget lolocopops.
Or Bonkin from South Africa
and what about the mighty throbin' hood?
]Originally posted by Peteff
Are we in the MK section or the GTS? Can I place an advert in here for anyone else while we're at it? Luego do kits and MAC1 and there's a
little firm called westham or caterfield or something while you're looking. There's Dax, Tiger and locopops or something like that.
Anybody want to chip in with a few more? Oh yes, don't forget Fisher, they've done a couple of cars.
[Edited on 20/5/04 by Peteff] [/quote
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Hellfire
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 07:20 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dozracing
I kinda found it funny that Hellfire makes a comment like that in this section of the forum, of course he is totally unbiased as well.
Absolutely!
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ned
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 08:59 AM |
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not wishing to get into an arguemenmt syd, but isn't the phrase:
"put your money where your mouth is?"
which from my understanding is what Darren is doing.
incidentally, most people on here that have bought a kit are biased in a certain direction. I havce bought bits off MK and GTS and think highly of
both kits, i'm building a locost so don't have anyone's chassis but my own.
I'm sure if you look in the mk or luego section people comment on other chassis to convince people to buy the one they are biased towards.
this refers in no way to any specific users of this forum.
Ned.
[Edited on 21/5/04 by ned]
beware, I've got yellow skin
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timf
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 09:47 AM |
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is it not the case syd that if you go back
and read threads that you seem to have a problem with darren, it certainly reads so from previous posts, but then any one one disagrees with you is
deemed to be fair game.
At least Darren has given the locost fraterinty some well made, good quality items at a resonable price.
All that you seem to do syd is say this is not how to do it according to me and i'm right.
Give darren a break he's tring to break into the market, snoopy takes it in good manner. you have people asking about the GTS kit and you have
hellfire saying MK MK MK others saying luego luego cant darren have a chance to air his view.
To quote you it seems the same things are being said time and again and its always the same person saying it in this case you and your dislike for
darren, If you think that you can do better go for it
put up or shut up syd.
Tim
[Edited on 21/5/04 by timf]
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flak monkey
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 09:58 AM |
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Well said Tim 
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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Hellfire
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 11:42 AM |
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Have to agree with Syd on this one. Lets be honest.... how many other manufacturers appear on here, putting down other manufacturers products?
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ned
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 11:44 AM |
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how many other manufacturers appear on here full stop?! I think the fact that Darren is the only (?) manufacturer to regularly use the website and
answer questions and give advice on his products speaks for itself.
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Hellfire
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 11:53 AM |
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I totally agree with you Ned. But putting others products down?? C'mon...thats just not cricket.
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ned
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 12:11 PM |
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Hellfire,
I have re-read the thread, just to make sure I'm not getting it wrong! (well, it happens ocasionally  )
Darrens comment was (regarding an MK):
"But its heavier, doesn't have DeDion, costs more and has less detailing."
I personally wouldn't say that he is making any derogetory remarks about the MK, I know Darren has said before he has the utmost respect for MK.
I would suggest as a comparison that his points are correct (IMVHO)
The MK will be heavier as it is IRS, so has more tubes at the back end (though if anyone has the weights to post up, go for it, i'd be
interested to know the difference!)
The MK doesn't have dedion (well, I kow they used to make a dedion, but don't anymore) this is a fact
The MK costs more. well, i've not don't a check on this, but from memory they are both very reasonably and similarly priced.
has less detailing: well, i'm not such what is inferred by this, possibly things such as the front camber adjustment system, but i don't
know that's what Darren means, just a guess.
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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flak monkey
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 12:33 PM |
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quote:
originally posted by Syd
And any engineer worth his degree, will tell you the welded product is inferior to the non-welded product of similar dimension
I am not gonna argue...You are correct, you cant argue with fact. I am sure darren has done all the necessary research and decided to go for a welded
axle for some reason...
As ned says I also dont see where darren was putting down MK, he was just giving his opinion which everyone is entitled to.
You can always find fault with a product if you try. Only if you make a criticism that is not justified, it is wrong.
At the end of the day the differences between the kits are small. It comes down to personal preference as to which you choose. I would chose the GTS
(if i was kit building!) over MK. Mainly because it has de dion...
Cheers
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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M@Triton
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 12:35 PM |
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Deary deary me.....reel yer necks in!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 01:11 PM |
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(It's a while since I heard that expression...)
David (who didn't take the original comment to heart)
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Hellfire
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 01:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ned
.... I would suggest as a comparison that his points are correct (IMVHO)
The MK will be heavier as it is IRS, so has more tubes at the back end (though if anyone has the weights to post up, go for it, i'd be
interested to know the difference!)
The MK doesn't have dedion (well, I kow they used to make a dedion, but don't anymore) this is a fact
The MK costs more. well, i've not don't a check on this, but from memory they are both very reasonably and similarly priced.
has less detailing: well, i'm not such what is inferred by this, possibly things such as the front camber adjustment system, but i don't
know that's what Darren means, just a guess.
Ned.
So, which points are actually correct ??
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ned
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 01:32 PM |
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well, I would suggest all of them!
but as we currently cannot prove any of them either way I guess we'll have to agree to disagree!
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Hellfire
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 01:37 PM |
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I don't agree
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flak monkey
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 01:51 PM |
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This could go on forever 
I'm quite happy for people to think what they like about which ever manufacturer they want...
At the end of the day we are all building Locosts or a variant of it. They are all nearly the same...which one you choose is up to you....
We all try to pursuade people to go our way...but hey its not worth arguing about... If you want to build an MK go for it, a GTS good for you....a
Robin Hood or Tiger...GOOD LUCK
Cheers
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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Alan B
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 02:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
...... They are all nearly the same...
Oh no they're not...
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ned
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 02:43 PM |
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oh yes they are
beware, I've got yellow skin
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MikeR
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 05:00 PM |
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Sorry but i can't resist,
Oh no they're....
Oh yes they are ....
Oh no they're not ....
do you think i should stop taking the tablets?
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Peteff
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 05:32 PM |
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Blue Smarties?????
Whatever next, garlic bread!!!!!!
There's only so much you can do with 4 wheels, some metal and some fibreglass
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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ChrisS
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 06:26 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by M@Triton
Deary deary me.....reel yer necks in!
Maybe you would like to add a little more detail to your posts, and give us an idea why youve "gone walkabout" and what happened to the
gts/triton thing?
Im not being rude, but id sure like to know what happened, as i was really quite looking forward to taking delivery of my kit TODAY!
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