dozracing
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 07:17 PM |
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Thanks everyone for taking the time to comment, but, save bitching and be constructive and get on with something that moves your respective projects
on!!
Syd and Hellfire. Thanks for entering into the discussions your opinions are welcome at the very least because they liven things up. Not sure how you
came across the debate as neither of you are building a GTS or have/will buy anything from me. Guess your just nosey or bored or looking to stir
something up!
Welded or not welded, i guess Syd you are talking about the dedion axle. Lets just clarify it. Not sure i have every told anyone its stronger as it
is, cut and welded. But the reason its cut and welded has little to do with strength. Once a design is strong enough for the job then other issues
take precendent. Stiffness, and manufacturing concerns and stability become more important.
We have found and so have Caterham that a bent DeDion tube wants to straighten out over time, thus changing the rear geometry, also it acts more like
a spring. So we choose to go with something which has proved to be stiffer and doesn't vary its geometry in use.
More detailing does refer to little details like camber adjusters, steering rack extensions, mushroom adpators, oval wishbones top and bottom, neat
fuel tank design, neat wing stays and pedals etc..
Darren
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caterhamcars
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 09:02 PM |
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The only seven worth it's salt is the Caterham the rest are bad copies or a poor man's substitute
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marc n
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 09:07 PM |
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To answer the users post
triton / gts have no involvement with mnr
regards
marc
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Hellfire
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 09:44 PM |
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quote:
Syd and Hellfire. Thanks for entering into the discussions your opinions are welcome at the very least because they liven things up. Not sure how you
came across the debate as neither of you are building a GTS or have/will buy anything from me. Guess your just nosey or bored or looking to stir
something up!
So much for buying something from you Daz...
BUT - put this way...
your idea of selling the small headlamps which we bought from you back in December 2003 - you said at the time they were emarked and fully met the SVA
requirements. We bought the items. After the sale you then craftily placed on your website NOT SVA PROVEN quite a nice little sidestep...
that is why the headlights are now up for sale as they DONT pass SVA due to them being Euro Bike Lights (Left hand, flat top beam)
 NOT SVA PROVEN!!!! (Remember?)
As you never responded to our emails we never got an answer... that is why we haven't bought anything from you since... we had no axe to grind
but you started it - as usual.
Further more - we will be building another kit soon - and we may consider ALL manufacturers - including yourself. We have no preferences... despite
your opinions.
IIWY - I would refrain from commenting as most of the time you make some kind of controversial remark. 
As a quality manufacturer, (yes I do actually rate your products!) I find your flippant remarks and derogatory comments about other manufacturers do
nothing for your own integratory - my company didn't get to where we have by acting in this manner. Why can't you just hold your head
high and be proud to be associated with other major league Kit players instead of try to belittle them?
[Edited on 21-5-04 by Hellfire]
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M@Triton
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| posted on 21/5/04 at 09:53 PM |
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Just to clear things up:
I quit...simple as that.
Mark
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flak monkey
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| posted on 22/5/04 at 11:38 AM |
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My mate has just done one of those courses, they are very good, would recommend them to anyone who's trying to start a business! Like Syd says
they are free if you are in your first year...
But then maybe Darren has already done one...
Cheers,
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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Noodle
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| posted on 22/5/04 at 01:25 PM |
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So what's the score now with ordering GTS chassis?
Now that M@Triton is M!@Triton, have you sorted another supplier out yet Darren or are you 'between' fabricators?
I'm a bit confused by the situation. (Nothing new there then.)
Cheers,
Neil.
Your sort make me sick
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dozracing
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| posted on 22/5/04 at 06:56 PM |
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Hi all,
Hellfire, actually belive the headlamps to be SVA compliant, as Premier Wiring are selling the same ones, bought from the same place, and they reckon
their customers are getting through SVA fine with them, so perhaps you should hold on to them. Send them back and i'll refund the full amount if
your not happy or convinced about them.
Would love to do a night school course, but, as i work all day and then do GTS in the evening and only sleep about 4-5 hours and still can't
keep up with the level of interest etc, i'm not sure how to go about doing it. Thanks for the advice though.
I am pretty confident that we will be back in manufacture very soon as i now have suppliers that are very keen to work with me on it. Its just trying
to find the most felxible ones who can maintain the quality.
We have several orders to fulfill and dozens of positive enquiries to work on so things are looking really positive, several new investors are looking
keen as well.
Kind regards,
Darren
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Hellfire
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| posted on 22/5/04 at 07:02 PM |
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Darren,
Good news then... hope all goes well when the dust settles with your company. You really should get more sleep.... 
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nicklondon
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| posted on 22/5/04 at 07:07 PM |
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again good luck darren the more manufactors the more choice and hopefully lower prices
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M@Triton
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 posted on 22/5/04 at 07:50 PM |
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Snoopy bloke,
Personally i am glad to be out of it. Does my head in all the hassle.....how you at MK deal with it on the scale you do, beats me.........hats off to
you.
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andyps
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| posted on 27/5/04 at 12:48 PM |
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[Quote]You could try MK.
But its heavier, doesn't have DeDion, costs more and has less detailing.
Kind regards,
Darren[quote/]
Would this have been acceptable to all if worded "You should buy a GTS because it is lighter than other kits, has De-dion rear suspension and is
lower priced even with additional chassis detailing included"?
Courses in positive language provided by SPA Training Development. Lots of other people have used this thread to advertise, so I am too!
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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Hellfire
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| posted on 27/5/04 at 04:55 PM |
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Andy, even though it's a forced plug... of course it sounds better, it might even be true and it's professional etiquette to highlight the
good points and hide the bad  until asked! In which case a honest answer must be forthcoming, not one which spins so much Tony Blair could have said
it
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dozracing
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| posted on 27/5/04 at 06:31 PM |
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Tony Blair would have denied saying anything, then when confronted with the evidence sacked another member of staff and blamed them. Then come up
smelling of Roses....
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