fuz
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| posted on 2/9/06 at 07:54 PM |
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Zetec Questions
Hi, just got a 1.6 zetec mondeo for our project. most of these questions will have been answered, but to save time i'm gunna ask them all
here!!
Ok
1. do we use the engine management system from the mondeo.
2.Which distributor do we use, the mondeo or sierra.
3.Also the wiring loom for the engine and associated engine electrics? mondeo or sierra.
4.Which bell housing do we use, the zetec or the one from the type 9 from the sierra.
5.The hydrolic pump for the power assisted steering is attatched to the engine. What do we do with this??
6.Lastly, what do we do with the alternator.
Any other info relating to these questions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Andy
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givemethebighammer
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| posted on 2/9/06 at 08:12 PM |
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I run a 2.0L zetec on motorbike carbs, I know the 1.6 zetec is slightly different but hope this helps. But like it has been said there is loads of
info on this forum a quick search should give you loads more info.
1. do we use the engine management system from the mondeo. - you can but it won't be tunable, best using a Megajolt or other aftermarket ECU
(emerald, GEMS, OMEX etc)
2.Which distributor do we use, the mondeo or sierra. - none zetec doesn't have one (ECU serves this purpose)
3.Also the wiring loom for the engine and associated engine electrics? mondeo or sierra. - you will probably have to make or buy a loom for this as
once the engine has been stripped of all the stuff you won't be using the loom becomes much simpler anyway. (my engine loom (running carbs) is
really just crank position sensor, throttle position sensor, and coil connection. My alternator and starter connections are separate to the engine
loom.
4.Which bell housing do we use, the zetec or the one from the type 9 from the sierra. - standard 2.0L sierra one is OK (well for a 1.8 / 2.0L zetec it
is).
5.The hydrolic pump for the power assisted steering is attatched to the engine. What do we do with this?? - remove it and bin it
6.Lastly, what do we do with the alternator. - make a custom bracket up and fit it where ever suits you best (mine is under the carbs on my 2.0L
zetec). You can also fit a smaller alternator to save space, I have a Daihatsu Charade 1.3 one fitted to my car.
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 2/9/06 at 08:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by fuz
Hi, just got a 1.6 zetec mondeo for our project. most of these questions will have been answered, but to save time i'm gunna ask them all
here!!
Ok
1. do we use the engine management system from the mondeo.
If you want
2.Which distributor do we use, the mondeo or sierra. You can't use either
3.Also the wiring loom for the engine and associated engine electrics? mondeo or sierra. Don't waste your time new is best
4.Which bell housing do we use, the zetec or the one from the type 9 from the sierra. The Sierra one
5.The hydrolic pump for the power assisted steering is attatched to the engine. What do we do with this?? Anything you like. You don't need
it
6.Lastly, what do we do with the alternator.What the hell do you think? you attach it to the engine and drive it with a "v" belt
Any other info relating to these questions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Andy
Now go and do some research.
Start HERE
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!! 
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fuz
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| posted on 2/9/06 at 08:31 PM |
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quote:
Now go and do some research.
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just a thought, the sites "search" facility might help you if your actually prepared to put some work into the project doing your own
research
Thanks you two for your advice!!!
I am well aware of the search facility as I am a computer operator. Computers and forums are there to make things easier. The search facilty has a bug
in it as when you click back to what you have searched it says the page has expired resulting you having to search again. It doesn't take long
to post a simple reply as "givemethe bighammer has done" thanks for that mate.
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02GF74
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| posted on 2/9/06 at 08:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BKLOCO
quote:
Originally posted by fuz
Hi, just got a 1.6 zetec mondeo for our project. most of these questions will have been answered, but to save time i'm gunna ask them all
here!!
Ok
6.Lastly, what do we do with the alternator.What the hell do you think? you attach it to the engine and drive it with a "v" belt
Now go and do some research.
Start HERE
if you wanted to save weight and gain abit of power, you could run on just the battery - would be suitable for short runs on the the track; depending
on capacity of battery.
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gazza285
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| posted on 2/9/06 at 09:02 PM |
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Don't mind CaLviNx, I think he must be of short stature or something, because he has the worst case of small man syndrome I've ever seen.
DO NOT PUT ON KNOB OR BOLLOCKS!
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gazza285
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| posted on 2/9/06 at 09:03 PM |
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Forgot about my own signature for a minute there, best add a  or two.
DO NOT PUT ON KNOB OR BOLLOCKS!
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gazza285
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| posted on 2/9/06 at 09:05 PM |
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DO NOT PUT ON KNOB OR BOLLOCKS!
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coozer
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| posted on 2/9/06 at 09:37 PM |
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IMHO simply
1. No
2. Mondeo doesnt have a dizzy ~ use megasquirt or jolt
3. If using above, (2) make your own
4. Zetec has no bellhousing of any use. A type 9 gearbox and housing is required
5. Unbolt it & junk it.
6. Put it some where that suits. There are lots of different configurations.
There may be some other issues as I wasn't aware the Mondeo came with a 1.6 and dont know what the engine config is. Is it not a 1.6SE? If so
its a different animal and disregard my above advise!!!
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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fuz
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| posted on 2/9/06 at 10:08 PM |
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Coozer, thanks for your advice. I'm not sure if it's an SE or not as we've just got it today. Good advice all the same, thanks.
RE: My first post. It was my intention to get constructive advice on what other people have done on their builds as there are many different ways of
doing it. Thanks to those who have done that. Cheers
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graememk
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| posted on 2/9/06 at 10:27 PM |
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personally scrap it and get a 1.8, tried and tested
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Mansfield
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| posted on 2/9/06 at 11:22 PM |
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Hold SHIFT and click the search thread you fancy, you wont lose your other threads that way.
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fuz
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| posted on 2/9/06 at 11:44 PM |
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Cheers Mansfeild... Ta
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stargoaly
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| posted on 2/9/06 at 11:54 PM |
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If I find a usefull thread I just add to my favourite places like this.
Locostbuilders - remote oil filter
Locostbuilders - photo plenum chamber
etc
etc
I find this the best way to retain access to threads that have information I might need later on
Probably telling you something obvious as you work with computers
virgin builder
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big_wasa
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| posted on 3/9/06 at 08:06 AM |
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My advice is not to start and spend money on the 1.6.
The Mondeo engines need the water pump changing for an escort/Orion/Fiesta as they run the opposite way. You would also want the sump from the same as
the mondeo one is huge.
On a budget if you are not overwhelmed by electrics you could use the original injection system. But it’s not done a lot due to the work involved and
at the end of the day you will still only have 90bhp from the 1.6.
Another budget option on the zetec is to run a single carb on a cvh manifold with an adapter plate. For ignition you can use the Dis ignition from an
older ford. Very easy and only a couple of wires to use. Expect no more than 100bhp out of your 1.6.
Use the bell housing that comes with the gearbox.
Alternator. Make up some brackets to mount it under the inlet manifold.
All this assumes that it is a silver top Zetec i.e. pre 1998
Give us a shout and ill sort some pics
[Edited on 3/9/06 by big_wasa]
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Project7
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| posted on 3/9/06 at 10:44 AM |
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Hey Fuz,
Im using a 1.6 zetec and theres little/no difference between installing a 1.6, 1.8 or 2.0 as apart from water pumps the engines are externally
similar.
The engine will a Zetec-E, as they didnt fit the SE to mondeos.
quote:
Expect no more than 100bhp out of your 1.6
I think you can expect more that 100bhp, trust electrical quote 140bhp just with throttle bodies - I think they might be dreaming there but 120 should
be reasonable - Ill let you know how i get on at the rolling road.
[Edited on 3/9/06 by Project7]
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big_wasa
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| posted on 3/9/06 at 11:50 AM |
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quote:
Expect no more than 100bhp out of your 1.6
I think you can expect more that 100bhp, trust electrical quote 140bhp just with throttle bodies - I think they might be dreaming there but 120 should
be reasonable - Ill let you know how i get on at the rolling road.
[Edited on 3/9/06 by Project7]
Yep agreed BUT I mean on locost induction/ignition.
Thats a lot of dosh to spend on a 1.6 Imho
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fuz
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| posted on 3/9/06 at 10:54 PM |
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guys. away at the mo. managed to sign in from my phone. top advice which I will be taking onboard. big wasa,i'll message u when I get back for
some pics.as for the 1.6. were gunna have to stay with this and see what our options are. btw,its a 1993 1.6 zetec. cheers,andy
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big_wasa
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| posted on 5/9/06 at 07:17 PM |
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A phase 1 silver top then.
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fuz
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| posted on 5/9/06 at 09:34 PM |
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Cheers big_wasa. I'm back now. can you send me some of your photos to fuz@daisycutter.fsnet.co.uk. Cheers
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fuz
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| posted on 16/9/06 at 09:33 AM |
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quote:
Im using a 1.6 zetec
Project 7. We've got some GSXR 600 carbs to go with our 1.6l zetec. What manifold have you used on your setup.
What have other people used? Think alot have used Bogg Bros stuff but our project is based on bieng as cheap as poss so we need another
alternative.
Ta
Andy
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