nick205
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 06:55 PM |
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WTD - Pug 205 complete car or rolling shell
Probably a long shot, but I'm on the look out for a Pug 205 GTI car or rolling body shell. Must be 3 door, no sunroof, relatively rot free and
most importantly straight.
Will be used for a RWD project.
What have you got...?
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Coopz
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 07:16 PM |
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200384198051&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_500wt_1182
This is my GTI for sale only problem is it has a sunroof!
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nick205
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 07:26 PM |
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That looks a cracking little motor, but too good (and too expensive) to butcher for a RWD project.
Shouldn't have too much trouble selling it though 
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NS Dev
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 08:37 PM |
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How are you rwd'ing it?
message me if you like, not trying to sell anything, but been there done that and might be able to save you some hassle!
[Edited on 18/9/09 by NS Dev]
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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nick205
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 09:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
How are you rwd'ing it?
message me if you like, not trying to sell anything, but been there done that and might be able to save you some hassle!
[Edited on 18/9/09 by NS Dev]
Nat - you're already on my list of people to tap up for advice
Outline plan as follows...
Zetec mounted N/S mated to a type 9 box.
Caged shell incorporating mounting brackets for a De-Dion rear end using Sierra diff/shafts etc.
IIRC you built one with alive axle?
I'd certainly be up for some input on how you wnet about it and the pros/cons of the live axle approach.
U2U's to follow althoug be warned this is a long term project.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 10:06 PM |
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If I did it front engine rwd again I'd go de-dion.
The live axle was the worst part of the car. great on track, rubbish on really bumpy b roads!
De dion sorts the unsprung weight and gives the dampers a sensible task, while being a beam axle keeps camber nicel;y controlled, and is easy to
mount.
Mind you, now I know more, I'd actually put the engine in the boot, transversely on a fwd gearbox, and hang it off the back of the main cage
hoop, also using trailing arms dangling off the back of a tube joining the bottom of the main hoop legs........................
I have a saab 9-3 turbo engine and box sat in the workshop awaiting a decent Pug shell...........
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 10:39 PM |
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This looks cheap.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1991-PEUGEOT-205-GTI-RED_W0QQitemZ270458299299QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item3ef89223a3&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
/>
Just a edit to add,this as this car
did have a £300 buy it now price when I posted the link,before someone placed a bid
[Edited on 19/05/04 by PAUL FISHER]
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nick205
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 10:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
If I did it front engine rwd again I'd go de-dion.
The live axle was the worst part of the car. great on track, rubbish on really bumpy b roads!
De dion sorts the unsprung weight and gives the dampers a sensible task, while being a beam axle keeps camber nicel;y controlled, and is easy to
mount.
Mind you, now I know more, I'd actually put the engine in the boot, transversely on a fwd gearbox, and hang it off the back of the main cage
hoop, also using trailing arms dangling off the back of a tube joining the bottom of the main hoop legs........................
I have a saab 9-3 turbo engine and box sat in the workshop awaiting a decent Pug shell...........
keep it coming
This will be primarily a road car so good to hear your appraisal of a live axle set-up. My origianl direction was to try and garfta 405 Mi16 4x4
set-up into a 205 - possible but it seems fraught.
Back of head thoughts suggest big BEC FWD, but reality says cost vs value will kill that aproach.
Silly damned emotioal 205 attachment 
ETA...
It will not be aturbo install of any kind - I can't get past the clean NA full throttle thing - possibly a dimmed view, but that's the
way it is.
[Edited on 18/9/09 by nick205]
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NS Dev
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| posted on 19/9/09 at 09:30 AM |
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No, not silly! They make so much sense to modify (as in proper mods not chavving around! )
They don't rot, they have a decent front end suspension setup, they are light, they look good, body bits are dirt cheap, and they are wide
enough to get most transplanty bits in the shell!
Here you go, some piccies of my old car, built in my mum and dad's single garage from a 1.0 crash damaged shell.............
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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madrallysport
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| posted on 19/9/09 at 09:38 AM |
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Now thats a very tidy car, i like the cage and the details on the tunnel and 5 linked tubs.
UNDERSTEER is when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
OVERSTEER is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car.
HORSEPOWER is how fast you hit the wall.
TORQUE is how far you take the wall with you.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 19/9/09 at 09:41 AM |
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Thanks very much!!
I do it for a living (If I actually made any money anyway lol! ) now, www.retropower.co.uk
That Pug was sold as a semi-rolling shell to IB Motorsport in Leamington. No idea what has happened to it since!
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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spdpug98
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| posted on 19/9/09 at 09:44 AM |
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Nick, hopefully something will come along. It's a bit of a shame you're a bit late, I sold my race shell last year before starting my
build.....to give you an idea of cost I sold it for around £200.
I had stripped the car and sold all the bits but the car still had a fully welded Safety Devices cages in it
Good luck with the build, I also love my 205's
and just a reason to put up some of my old race car pics....I can't let go
My Blog: http://spdpug98.wordpress.com/
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nick205
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| posted on 21/9/09 at 10:29 AM |
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Nat - great photos, makes me want to get started immediately
Dave - great photos too!
There's just something about them Pugs 
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