andylancaster3000
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 02:30 PM |
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WTD: Duratec instal' parts
Hi all,
Duratec conversion is now underway with a bare block and other bits for dummying up. So I'm on the hunt for parts.
Mainly interested in:
- Complete engine. Mondeo type, not fiesta ST.
- Inlet manifold, 45mm carb/jenvey type
- Burton flywheel (long shot probably!)
- Possibly a bellhousing though this might already be sorted.
- Exhaust manifold. Might consider pinto manifold to modify.
- 45mm throttle bodies or equiv' sized respaceable bike throttle bodies.
Or anything else you have you might consider useful!
Cheers,
Andy
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scootz
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 02:33 PM |
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Just out of interest Andy, why don't you want an ST150 engine?
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eddie99
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 02:35 PM |
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Sorry can't help but whats the differnce between the mondeo and fiesta st engine?
[Edited on 15/3/10 by eddie99]
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scootz
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 02:41 PM |
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The only thing that comes immediately to mind is that the ST150 engine has a lighter, single-mass flywheel and the EGR is already blanked-off.
Both are advantageous for the RWD kit-car builder...
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andylancaster3000
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 02:44 PM |
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Due to 750 Kit car regs:
5.7.B.1 Modifications Permitted: a) Engine. The only permitted engine is the Ford 2000cc, 16 Valve (Duratec DHE 420) engine in its 145PS form with
nominal bore 87.5mm and stroke 83.1mm. Production tolerances are permitted providing the total swept volume does not exceed 2000cc.
How I understand it, this means the modeo engine and not the 150bhp found in the Fiesta. I think the cams are slightly different judging by the fact
they make you run kent cams copies of the standard camshafts 
[Edited on 15/3/10 by andylancaster3000]
[Edited on 15/3/10 by andylancaster3000]
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scootz
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 02:47 PM |
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What kind of induction were you planning on using Andy?
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andylancaster3000
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 02:57 PM |
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Probably try and be brave and move away from what we know (i.e. DCOEs!) and have a go at injection with either 45mm jenvey type throttle bodies if
they can be found at a reasonable price or equivalent size bike-throttles.
[Edited on 15/3/10 by andylancaster3000]
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scootz
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 03:12 PM |
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David (Flak Monkey) should be able to help as he knows Duratecs inside out, but my thoughts are that they were just the same engine, with the same
cams...
The ST150 just had slightly different electronics and the bits I mentioned in my first post...
I could be wrong though... I frequently am!
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flak monkey
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 04:22 PM |
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ST150 is identical to the mondeo engine to the best of my knowledge
ST150 is 147bhp and 190Nm
Mondeo is 142bhp and 185Nm
As far as i understand it the difference is power is just a few tweaks to the ecu, different exhaust and thats it. The engines are the same other than
the flywheel. I believe they even have the same engine code CJBA (its on a sticker on the cam cover).
Sera
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DRC INDY 7
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 07:15 PM |
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Duratec 20
The 993 is a 2.0 L (122 CID; 1999 cc) version built in Chihuahua, Chihuahua, Mexico. Bore is 87.5 mm (3.44 in) and stroke is 83.1 mm (3.27 in).
It is used in the US/Argentinian Focus, US Transit Connect (engine built in Valencia, Spain), and the Brazilian Ford EcoSport. (European Fiesta ST,
Ford Focus and Focus C-Max, Mondeo, S-Max, Transit and Galaxy use Duratec HE engines). On the 2007 Focus, output is 136 hp (101 kW) at 6000 rpm with
136 ft·lbf (184 N·m) of torque at 4250 rpm. The 2007 Focus sold in the US states of CA, NY, MA, VT and ME comes with the required PZEV emissions 20E
version which produces 130 hp (97 kW) at 6000 rpm with 129 ft·lbf (175 N·m) of torque at 4000 rpm. The PZEV is available as an option in border
states. The compression ratio for both versions is 10:1. On the 2008 Focus, output is 140 hp (100 kW) at 6000 rpm with 136 ft·lbf (184 N·m) of torque
at 4250 rpm. The 2009 Focus Coupe with manual transmission has 143 hp. The 2008 Focus sold in the US states of CA, NY, MA, VT and ME comes with the
required PZEV emissions 20E version which produces 132 hp (98 kW) at 6000 rpm with 133 ft·lbf (180 N·m) of torque at 4250 rpm.[1] The PZEV is
available as an option in border states. The compression ratio for both versions is 10:1. It has an aluminum engine block and an aluminum DOHC
cylinder head. The cylinders are lined with cast iron. It uses SFI fuel injection, has 4 valves per cylinder and features fracture-split forged powder
metal connecting rods, a one-piece cast crankshaft, and a cast aluminum or reinforced plastic intake manifold. It does not have variable valve timing.
The power output is less than the Mazda version which does have VVT.[citation needed]
The plastic intake manifold on early versions has a major fault due to poor quality materials. The manifold has swirlplates mounted on a square shaft
at the aperture where it mounts to the cylinder head. Early 4 cylinder Duratec engines can be ruined when the swirlplates break off and enter a
cylinder. Most cases are of single swirlplates but also the shaft can wear and break. Early signs of this fault are evidenced by a ticking noise
emanating from the front of the engine. This can occur as early as 25K miles, with failure typically occurring after about 90K miles.
It's the same engine
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goaty
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 07:24 PM |
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there was a guy on here selling bits, he put a titan flywheel on ebay which didn;t sell for its 75 starting plus he had other bits, have a quick
search.
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scootz
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 07:49 PM |
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I'm selling a Duratec...
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JAMSTER
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 08:35 PM |
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i have a steel flywheel and starter for sale
offers also i have a duratec 1.8 engine needs building/boring pistons etc etc
thanks
[Edited on 15/3/10 by JAMSTER]
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