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theduck

posted on 10/12/11 at 01:54 PM Reply With Quote
First start problem

Attempting the first start at the moment on my pinto engine and everytime I turn the car over the dizzy cap is popping off, help?






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RichardK

posted on 10/12/11 at 02:00 PM Reply With Quote
Have you had the drive assy out, the long bit that drives the oil pump, just wondering if its been put back in without the o ring and pressure is blowing the cap off, would have expected a bit of oil too to be honest...

Forget that, the o ring I was thinking of is under the body section.


Thinking cap now on....

[Edited on 10/12/11 by RichardK]





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RichardK

posted on 10/12/11 at 02:02 PM Reply With Quote
Has the dizzy cap been changed, is it the correct one?? Does it seem to clip on firmly?





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theduck

posted on 10/12/11 at 02:10 PM Reply With Quote
Seems to clip on firmly. Just got her indoors to crank it while I held the cap on and the cap is actually twisting and so the clips then cone off






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Chippy

posted on 10/12/11 at 02:20 PM Reply With Quote
Sounds like either the wrong cap, or the wrong rotor. Sounds to me as thought the rotor is hitting the pickups in the cap. Could be wrong, but don't think so. HTH Ray





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theduck

posted on 10/12/11 at 02:23 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers ray. As far as I am aware it us the distributor and cap that came off the running donor, certainly both were dirty enough to be.

Leaving battery to charge for a bit before trying again. All ideas welcome!






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theduck

posted on 10/12/11 at 03:19 PM Reply With Quote
Just thinking. Could it be a vacuum pipe issue? Am not 100% they are on right...






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MsD

posted on 10/12/11 at 04:30 PM Reply With Quote
I had a similair thing last week- The new rotor arm wasnt seated properly. So as the engine turned over and the rotor arm turned it tried to pop the cap off. Might be worth checking!
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coozer

posted on 10/12/11 at 04:41 PM Reply With Quote
Edis and coil pack should sort it out.





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theduck

posted on 10/12/11 at 04:42 PM Reply With Quote
Just had a look. The rotor arm and the plastic cover under it both lifted straight off, is this normal? Put it back on and it seems to sit ok but wasn't sure it should have come off like it did...






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MsD

posted on 10/12/11 at 04:55 PM Reply With Quote
My rotor arm was quite a tight fit- but it was brand new. The plastic cover is only loosly fitted on top.
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lotusmadandy

posted on 10/12/11 at 09:40 PM Reply With Quote
Rotor not seated properly,hitting the electrode
and pushing the cap off.
When i had my pinto the rotor was a tight fit on the shaft.

Andy






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theduck

posted on 11/12/11 at 10:43 AM Reply With Quote
Just bought a new rotor arm and cap, fingers crossed this solves it.






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theduck

posted on 11/12/11 at 11:11 AM Reply With Quote
Another day another problem.

New arm and cap have solved the first problem but still not starting and carb is shooting the easy start back out the top of the carb.






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l0rd

posted on 11/12/11 at 11:46 AM Reply With Quote
not a solution but did you try to fit it upside down?




good luck with it.

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theduck

posted on 11/12/11 at 11:52 AM Reply With Quote
Haha. No but you put a smile on otherwise sad face.

I have double checked all the vac hoses and have found I missed one

Have no idea where it connects, its the main hose from the manifold that the carb and dizzy tee from. Where should this goto?

I also have the hole on the right branch of the manifold blanked off, is this right?






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Ian.C

posted on 12/12/11 at 12:14 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RichardK
Have you had the drive assy out, the long bit that drives the oil pump, just wondering if its been put back in without the o ring and pressure is blowing the cap off, would have expected a bit of oil too to be honest...

Forget that, the o ring I was thinking of is under the body section.


Thinking cap now on....

[Edited on 10/12/11 by RichardK]


Sorry to jump in on this thread but can you tell me more about this modification you have carried out, I need something similar. Thanks Ian

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RichardK

posted on 12/12/11 at 12:58 PM Reply With Quote
See page 6 of my gallery to give you an idea of what I did,a brief explanation is that as I'm running a mega jolt for ignition the the dizzy wasn't needed except for the fact that the oil pump is driven from it so the lower half is still needed, the pictures show the rest.

Cheers

Rich

[Edited on 12/12/11 by RichardK]





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theduck

posted on 12/12/11 at 03:20 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers for your help Richard. Am avoiding going to megajolt etc for now. I found last night that I had lost spark so decided battery low and getting it fully charged before redoing some of the ignition loom and trying again.






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Ian.C

posted on 12/12/11 at 07:35 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RichardK
See page 6 of my gallery to give you an idea of what I did,a brief explanation is that as I'm running a mega jolt for ignition the the dizzy wasn't needed except for the fact that the oil pump is driven from it so the lower half is still needed, the pictures show the rest.

Cheers

Rich

[Edited on 12/12/11 by RichardK]


Thanks for that Rich, hope this isnt a daft question but what stops the shaft from going in a downward direction? is it the meshing of the gears, I notice on the dizzy I am going to butcher has a slight bit of end float. Ian

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