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daveb666

posted on 10/2/15 at 08:56 AM Reply With Quote
Flexible Carbon Fibre Sheet

I need to re-do my rear arch protectors - I had crappy carbon-look ABS before and want to change to real carbon-fibre.

I was going to buy a couple of sheets and cut out what I need, but then I saw this -

http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/Products/Flexible-Carbon-Fibre-Sheet.aspx

Just to be clear - this isn't sticky 3M carbon effect stuff, it's proper carbon-fibre.

I'm just wondering whether or not it will be up to the hammer that it may get from road-debris etc. It will also be close to the exhaust so the adhesive may not stand up to much either?

Should I just bite the bullet and just get rigid carbon fiber sheet?





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theduck

posted on 10/2/15 at 09:07 AM Reply With Quote
I'd be very interested to see how this looks, as from the description it is simply uncured carbon fibre, which isn't going to look great, unless they have done something clever to it.

ETA: Just seen this in the Q&A

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the adhesive used on the sheet might not be suitable for prolonged outdoor use.


[Edited on 10/2/15 by theduck]

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daveb666

posted on 10/2/15 at 09:36 AM Reply With Quote
Looks quite nice in the photo though haha. They sell it at Halfords so I might go take a look, just can't imagine it'll stand up to the heat and abuse it'll get on some rear arches.





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MsD

posted on 10/2/15 at 09:48 AM Reply With Quote
I've looked at doing the exact same thing. But haven't got round to it yet..

The stuff they recommend is-

http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/Products/Extra-Thick-Flexible-Carbon-Fibre-Sheet.aspx

But its a little pricey!

Mark.

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theduck

posted on 10/2/15 at 09:51 AM Reply With Quote
Second one looks a lot better. Still not convinced though
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daveb666

posted on 10/2/15 at 10:35 AM Reply With Quote
me neither, think I'll stick with proper CF





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tims31

posted on 10/2/15 at 10:44 AM Reply With Quote
Have you thought about having the arch hydro dipped with a carbon pattern. Maybe easier to get the effect that you want and easier to have applied?



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daveb666

posted on 10/2/15 at 11:19 AM Reply With Quote
Arches have just been painted gunmetal grey, but the carbon is to protect to FG arch itself as opposed to being decorative effect.





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pre lit

posted on 10/2/15 at 12:25 PM Reply With Quote
Carbon fibre self adhesive sheets from rally design been on my arches about three years now and is carbon
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obfripper

posted on 10/2/15 at 01:47 PM Reply With Quote
I'm pretty sure that is the same as is on my car.
It's carbon fibre, impregnated with vinyl.
It's definately a tricky one to put on around compound curves, the weave stops it flexing in more than 1 direction.

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I would say its not amazingly resillient, mine has been on about 4 years, and is well past its prime.
Once it has been stonechipped enough, it does start to delaminate fairly quickly.
Also, the backing glue is super sticky, and will peel off any stonechipped paint it is placed over.
I think i will use a proper cf pre preg type sheet when I come to replace the stoneguards.

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Angel Acevedo

posted on 10/2/15 at 05:51 PM Reply With Quote
I think that using CF as Stone Guard would be for looks and weight savings...
As stated in the previous post it is subject to the same issues you are trying to avoid in the Fiberglass below it.
A Real Stone Guard (for me) would be made of light gauge metal, either aluminium or Stainless Steel.
There is a clear film by 3M that prevents the paint from chipping, but I don´t thik it will stop star cracks.
Also, I think there´s a post here regarding the use of Mud flaps, but those may not be enogh, and also they´re not everybody´s cup of tea (or coffee)
Last but not least, some kind of Neoprene or Buna rubber would be very effective, although may not look very good.
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40inches

posted on 10/2/15 at 06:26 PM Reply With Quote
I eventually went for Stainless, after looking at a few cars with Carbon Fibre at Stoneleigh.
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daveb666

posted on 11/2/15 at 07:38 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Angel Acevedo
I think that using CF as Stone Guard would be for looks and weight savings...
As stated in the previous post it is subject to the same issues you are trying to avoid in the Fiberglass below it.
A Real Stone Guard (for me) would be made of light gauge metal, either aluminium or Stainless Steel.
There is a clear film by 3M that prevents the paint from chipping, but I don´t thik it will stop star cracks.
Also, I think there´s a post here regarding the use of Mud flaps, but those may not be enogh, and also they´re not everybody´s cup of tea (or coffee)
Last but not least, some kind of Neoprene or Buna rubber would be very effective, although may not look very good.
Regards
AA


Well my current t abs-fake carbon arche guards have been on 2 years and look as good as the day they were fitted - and I'm not particularly careful.

I've just bought some CF sheet and will be fitting that instead - it does help that I have very very low front arches (c. 2" clearance from the floor).





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Angel Acevedo

posted on 11/2/15 at 03:31 PM Reply With Quote
Daveb666
ABS takes impact different than Carbon, so that´s one point in favor of ABS.
But I think that your results are more due to the low level of the rear end of front arches. Thats why I commented on Mud Flaps.
One thing I will not argue against is BLING!! and lightweight.... (Well those were two...)





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Rich J

posted on 11/2/15 at 07:54 PM Reply With Quote
I used Real Kevlar/Carbon Fibre Self-Adhesive Sheet 500mm x 250mm Race/Rally Car on my Striker - one sheet did both wings -just.

It's reasonably thick so required a little heating to follow the curves but it's been on there for 3 years without sign of degredation

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